Bad trainer feet and floor damage

Wait a second. Why are we paying $375 to >$2000 for trainers, only to then have to McGuyver floor protectors? Srsly. This is like a $0.17 / unit fix. Make better feet!

I’m just sitting in my new apartment trying to plan out a sketch to get a local fab shop to whip up some as-small-as-possible but beefed out feet for my trainer’s “feet”, aka floor wreckers, to sit in, and I’m like….this is gonna cost me like $20-120, by the time I get them painted and the felt on the bottom. (Want them to look like part of the unit, so they look display - nice on the hardwood floor w the bike left on.) Plus like an hour or two of work and driving around.

@ ALL trainer manufacturers: What the HECK?!?! Srsly?! You leave US to have to do this? When just making the feet ACTUALLY protect floors (and look decent) would be an increased cost per unit of like $0.17 USD ?!?!

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I edited the topic title to a short summary and moved your old title to be the intro of your OP. Overly long titles mess up the topic feed, so shorter ones are best.

To the topic at hand, can you give more info on the trainer in use, way it’s feet damaged your floors and your planned solution?

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Have you thought of using a mat under your trainer. It will keep out sweat, chain lube and also prevent the foot damage. I use one and I have concrete floors.

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@mcneese.chad roger that, thanks for the org update!! I appreciate it!!

@TrekCentury yeah, so what I do personally is I just got one of those super strong but very thin & foldable shower curtains (PVC? Not sure. Not the thick ones that are a pain to fold! And it’s lasted 4 years of pretty heavy use, strong as heck.) and cut it to size to fit under the trainer (as in tucks in & out, with no need to lift the trainer at all).

I then can pop that in and out super easy, so when I pop it OUT and fold it and put it away, the bike is just on the trainer, on the hardwood floor.

So two big things: 1 - It looks at least sorta decent as a display pc. (If you keep the bike clean & trainer dusted.) It at least doesn’t look awful! :slightly_smiling_face: 2 - It takes up a much much smaller footprint than a bike ON a trainer mat. Important if this is sorta right in your living room, office, etc, and you’re going to be walking tightly around it and / or squeezing it as close as humanly possible between two pcs of furniture, etc. For instance, this could be the difference between comfortably fitting a ride station in a hallway, w plenty of room to walk around, vs. way too narrow w a permanent mat under it, etc. (Can always actually move the station when you need to move furniture, etc, up and down the hall, but the other 99% of the time, bike can just live there, no need to disassemble after every ride.)

I used to just have it on some foam squares w steel shims to level it. (Last place was an old 50s home w hardwood. 0.5” = 1 cm off level & shimmed up over just the trainer width! :flushed::roll_eyes:), as bike was in the back den. But now it will be front & centre, and I want it to look really nice.

Maybe to some the visual diff of feet on cut foam blocks & piles of shims vs just black “factory” feet is minor, but to me, that looks the difference between “Ya, that looks nice, I’m happy w that in the corner of the living room semi permanently” vs “Ew, someone needs to clean that up, looks messy.”

So the idea is feet laser cut out of 1/2” = 1 cm thick steel, as small as possible that spreads the weight out enough that I can slap a thin & unnoticeable pc of non-slip / grip-in-place rubber under it, and paint the top black & boom, “invisible” / looks part of the trainer feet that leave zero wear marks, even on a polished wood floor.

There will be a second slightly smaller circle of 1/4” = 0.5 cm thick steel tack welded on top of the first that has a small laser cut hole just the right size & shape for the feet to sit into, so it’s pretty much impossible for them to slide off.

If the level is off in the trainer spot, shim it to level, have the shims laser cut to match, tack welded. Hopefully get to entirely skip this step, IF it’s level. I highly doubt it.

Paint it black to match the trainer.

Why all this effort? If your floor is level, MUCH easier. I’d probably skip this all entirely, and just pop the foam blocks in & out easy, with the curtain-mat!!!

But as mentioned, my last place the floor was a levelling nightmare. You did NOT want to move the trainer, even a half inch, or you had to re-level it. You had to double check the level every time you accidentally bumped it 1/2” in any direction, and like 80% of the time, it would be way off again, and you were stuck tap-tapping it back into its magical position! :roll_eyes:

So want to NOT have to touch it! :slightly_smiling_face: Just covert mark the spots on the floor, quick dbl check it’s still in place, jump on and GO.

I guess most ppl don’t deal w this problem? No clue. Guess they just have….extra rooms they barely even care about a back corner, etc, to stash a mat? Blows my mind, honestly. :slightly_smiling_face:

But I DO gather, from all the reading I’ve ever done, that this is just how all trainers are; will damage floors, pretty much all floors, wood, laminate, ceramic, painted concrete, etc, tough luck, use a trainer mat.

It just makes no sense. It makes it such a pain to do all this after market, just to get the trainer we paid ____ for to not damage our floors, when the solution is so bloody easy and low cost from a mfg standpoint.

Clarify edit: I’ve not lost my noodle, here, chasing absolute & unattainable perfection. As mentioned, my last place was 1/2” / 1 cm out over the trainer width; about 24” / 60 cm ish. That bike is WAY out of level, like 5-10 deg. I’m not chasing a +/- 0.5 deg off perfect level!!! :slightly_smiling_face: Jeez, I mean, I have a book shelf already in the new place that took about 1/2” of shims to come to level just over its front to back depth of like 12” / 25 cm!! :flushed::roll_eyes: The tower of Pisa is straighter than that!! :laughing:

Maybe buy a rubber floor mat or small area rug under the trainer area? It would also serve to protect your floors from sweat.

I recently saw that someone had a 3d printer design for the Kickr Core that used two tennis ball on each foot.

Looks like a taller front wheel block would be required just to make the bike level. I use a KICKR Core and always use a front wheel block. Anyone know of anyone that makes a taller solution? I am not really looking to use a piece of wood like the video in their description.

I put my wheel block on a large bag of rice. The block stays put on the cloth bag and allows for some extra movement.
Not professional but inexpensive.

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Didnt 90yr olds with walkers already solve this problem with tennis balls?

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The message I’m getting from all this is that manufacturers could/should be supplying this this with the original purchase.

Like shoes should come with laces.

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@Grumpier.Mike that’s the kind of thing, but sleeker look. And steel, so it’s smaller.

@cmorgan92 I use the Saris front wheel block for exactly that reason; hate buying plastic, but needed something tall, that looked “profesh” / polished.

@Abe_Froman LOL!! Nice one. Ya, couple tennis balls ain’t exactly the living room look I’m going for! :laughing: Wait! It could be, though! I’ll just put ‘em on the coffee table and chair legs to match! :laughing:

@Pipipi EXACTLY !!!

How are they all getting away w this?! Especially given the tiny mfg cost of having excellent customer service?

We’re buying $300 - $2000 trainers and they’re like “Wow, looks like you messed up your floor with our trainer. THAT was pretty stupid of you!”

and we’re all just like

“Good point, I should have thought about that, I coulda reinvented the freaking wheel after market and spent $20 - $150 solving that! Stupid me! Sorry about that! Hey, could I by any chance pay you $100 for a pc of rubber 36” x 72” w your name printed on it to fix this? Don’t worry about the floor damage, I will repair that!”

:roll_eyes::roll_eyes::roll_eyes:

They wanna sell you the mat.

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  1. What brand trainer?

  2. On a wood floor?

  3. You actually cut a mat to fit under the trainer, and not under the feet?

  4. I was concerned about mats possibly adhering to the wood floor in my last house so I just rode it in the basement. I missed out on the whole cleaning/stench/touching of it.

  5. I’ve heard of people using a sheet of plywood with carpet under it and a mat on top of it. That isolates the trainer from the floor, provides a little cushion for it, and is durable. There are 4x8 sheets of formica covered plywood that can be made decorative too. (I knew someone that used a sheet of plywood, put wood floor looking ceramic tiles on it, with a black wood raised edge, and it looked amazing)

  6. (tongue in cheek) You don’t sweat on your trainer?

On a related note, after moving out, I discovered that the SPD cleats from the MTB shoes had scratched a small area of the floor near the door where I turned heading down stairs. I never noticed if before the last day after moving everything out. Shocked I was. It wasn’t horrific, but I’m sure the new owners noticed it before they bought the place. (I heard they actually took out the wood floor and redid that part of the house, moving the laundry, redoing the entire second floor, etc) If I was so focused on the trainer looking ‘museum quality’, I’d buy another trainer and never use it. It’s ‘functional art’, and if you sweat at all, the focus should possibly be more on the USE of the thing than the LOOK of the thing? But then I sweat, A LOT. :person_shrugging:

Good luck…

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For me a mat is required to catch all the little bits of greasy wax that gets thrown off of my chain over time. I didn’t buy a trainer mat though. I just bought a thin piece of industrial carpet from Home Depot.

This topic is kind of complaining about a non-issue IMO. I’ve had a Tacx and a Kickr and they haven’t ruined my floors.

If you have a really nice hardwood floor, you need to buy floor protectors for your couch, furniture, and everything else that might slide across the floor. Do we need topics on couch forums complaining that the $5000 couch shouldn’t require floor protectors?

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You definitely want a mat. In fact, you want to replace the mat every 1–3 years, because they get soaked with sweat and start smelling. Even if you put towels on top (which I do). Even with a tile floor I would use a mat to ensure things stay hygienic.

Protectors for the floor are a simple necessity if you e. g. have hardwood floors. Solutions are commonly sold in hardware stores (e. g. felt coasters with double-sided tape) so that your furniture does not scratch the surface. Why should your trainer be any different?

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