I got a Saris H3 on the way and have been reading up and down the H2 vs H3 thread about people reporting issues on those units as well. It seems even when spending 1000$+ you’re not “safe”. Seems to be the case across the brands and a sad state in 2019 for topend smarttrainers. If only those managers wouldn’t be after ebit > customersatisfaction those companies wouldn’t have to kick halfbacked products on the market. sorry, rant over
So at this point if I was between the 2 and 2T, which would you go for and why? 2 has slip issues, 2T has ERG issues, but it looks like the 2T issue can be fixed whereas the 2 slippage problem is what it is.
How bad is the ERG on 2T if using powermatch compared to using the trainer itself, is the ramp-up and ramp-down just too agressive?
If you have a thru axle, get the 2T. The adapter for the 2 is a bodge.
I can make my 2 slip, but it never happens in the normal course of workouts I do (e.g., SSB1/2, Sustained Power, Century). So that may never be an issue depending on what you do on the trainer.
I went for the 2T as the price difference is minimal in the long run and don’t want to deal at all with slip.
Could you ask Tacx what on earth is going on with the tacx smart bike please? Looks like they may have stopped shipping altogether to fix all of the issues.
The 2 did slip, but you had to really go for it to make this happen. Like flipping a switch to jump from 100 to 500w. Never had an issue with it.
Im personally devastated my 2 packed in. It rode very nicely with TR in erg. The accuracy is also why I chose neo, so having it replaced with a 2t which is out by 10 Watts, potentially more, is unacceptable for trainer that costs a grand when the older version was spot on.
If you have the option for a 2, for a couple of hundred bucks cheaper than the 2t, I would go for it without doubt
I ran the static weight test on my Favero’s tonight and it said there’s no issue with the pedal calibration and zero offset. Redid some testing with the road bike and it still shows ~10% less power than the pedals.
Swapped the pedals/trainer over to the TT bike, repeated everything, and the Tacx showed 10% low power again. Have a inquiry into Garmin, so we’ll see what comes of it. Going to return the Neo 2 if I can’t get these closer.
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Hope it gets better. I get my N2T today and have a sweet spot ride scheduled so will report back. More than likely I will use my 530 to record the 4iiii and TR for the Neo2T.
I have one that I’ve been testing and should have my final review up soon on smartbiketrainers.com.
Impressions after their last firmware update: The best just got better.
- I am finding ERG mode to be superb. Quick to respond and smooth. It will ramp up to power in 1-2seconds. Some might not like that though.
- No tire slippage.
- Power measurement has been consistent and just very good vs 2 different power meters and what I expect to see from a NEO. I have a third powermeter that I usually test with as well but that didn’t play nice the past few rides and was way off. But it’s an issue with that power meter not the NEO. At least that’s what I am hoping for otherwise, I might have three bad power meters in the house
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Garmin is going to swap my Neo 2 out. Hopefully this was just a fluke.
Weird, REI pulled the Neo 2T from their site completely.
It sold out. Rei does not replenish there products like other retailers as they want to manage supply and customer satisfaction/delivery dates.
FYI: CleverTraining is discounting the 2T by 20% with a VIP membership:
Ha, that’s not very encouraging.
I’ve already returned the 2T and won’t have a chance to pickup my H3 from REI until early next week. It will be interesting to compare.
I’d consider those short spiky intervals to be a strength of the 2T because of how quickly it adjusts resistance.
Hopefully I won’t regret my decision.
I purchased my 2T about two weeks ago now and have had nothing but good experience. I don’t have any other power meters to compare it to, so I can’t speak on that. Aside from having the cadence issue that was fixed by the latest firmware update, it has been flawless
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Yes I am thinking the same when I get it today. I do have the 4iiii to compare it to but wont fret too much if there are slight variances. Plan to use the 2t as the sole power measurement inside and my 4iiii outside after my first test where I will record on both.
I have no baseline smart trainer to compare to, so the 2T is my first. I bought it on a whim just a week ago after seeing Lama and Rainmaker’s YT reviews and actually have no regrets other than maybe I should’ve waited for the 20% holiday deals that are on like at REI and Clever.
Initially as Lama and a few reported using their terms, it does feel like it’s “aggressive” initially when spinning up, but looking at the charts when I view other folks charts on different trainers/meters, I think the 2T is more “responsive” as someone else called out. As a sprinter myself and tried other friend’s trainers, i can also attest of the wheel-slippage-feeling when applying power on big sprints/climbs on occasion. With the 2T I have not experienced it all. Only time will tell now on long term reliability.
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This is what I do, except I have a Neo (not 2 or 2T) and I find it awesome. I don’t power match because I find the Neo itself quite stable and there are less fluctuations. If this means anything, my neo is around 5~ watts higher than my 4i, but my 4i is single side so I assume its a manufacturers tolerance+leg imbalances which skews the numbers. I don’t think too hard about it and I LOVE my neo!
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Good to hear and that is what I figured. Looking forward to riding tonight and testing it out. Where do I register the trainer? I have a bunch of Garmin products and typically do it via GC but I don’t see it in the normal area.
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