I have done sweet spot base for the last couple of years and am now looking at building out my indoor calendar for the upcoming base season and am wondering if doing traditional base would be beneficial. My avg TSS each week this summer has been between 500-700 - I have done a lot of the outdoor or…

[image] Beneluxrider: I somehow have the feeling that TB is easier to pair with more intense gym work in the off season compared to SS. I cant make a direct comparison, but I am managing two leg focused gym sessions (with sauna) a week while putting in average 12hr weeks of Z2 with tempo spri…

Nice! I want to try the same combo. Do you separate the gym work from your riding days, or do you double up?

I usually keep them separate, especially with the heavy leg exercises, which is easy to do because I get all my riding in 4 days a week so that leaves one recovery day 100% off. My last two weeks have been: M: off T: Gym: dead lift, squats, front squats, barbell press, stability exercises W: 2.5…

I do appreciate how he emphasizes that the improvement in calcium-calmodulin pathway signaling can come from overall volume at low intensity, not just from the 4 hr+ ride. All TSS is not the same – getting 100TSS of CHO burning, AMPK-pathway signaling 80-85% of FTP will not have the exactly the sam…

That’s something which has rarely been mentioned – Trad Base is not an FTP boosting plan in the same way people think of SSB. Really, their only similarity is the word ‘base’, and this seems to be a source of confusion (much how SSB2 contains a minority of SS workouts :man_shrugging: ). TB has almo…

Not sure if Chad would agree: [image] When do you usually see the most FTP gain? Training @dbf , I used to see the biggest gains in FTP with riders doing more traditional base plans. But with the Sweet Spot emphasis in place of LSD, it’s becoming really common for the compa…

redlude97: That is not the purpose of that block At the end of the day, it’s down to what kind of fitness you want to build as @Captain_Doughnutman said: [image] Captain_Doughnutman: Trad Base is more of a career-long pursuit vs SSB which is more of a season-centric application. For …

Maybe… having the first build be sustained build but otherwise the build plans are pretty intense and there might be transition problems coming off TB3. That is also a very long progression. 12+8+12+8+8=48 weeks… Just add another specialty and you have two seasons.

Realistically, any mix of plans that provides increased training load and doesn’t burn you out will work just fine. I personally can’t see training in 12 and 8wk blocks anymore, let alone planning a two season cycle. 4-6wks has been the ideal training block length for keeping myself engaged and see…

redlude97: What are people’s thoughts about going TB>Build>SSB>Build>Specialty? I did that this year. I found TB 1, 2, 3 into General Build was very tough and a poor transition. Too much of an intensity switch.

Any benefit to Traditional Base vs Sweet Spot?

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Not sure if Chad would agree:

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Any benefit to Traditional Base vs Sweet Spot?

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