If you wanted to get the old epic evo but pay more for it.
- Sort of their trademark, like Turq
- Ditto, I checked out many of their models over they years but never saw a benefit for the price.
To be fair the new Epic 8 isnāt very far off from last yearās epic evo either. Which I have⦠so donāt see the need to buy either.
Yeah, but specialized is just iterating on the evo, not claiming its new and cutting edge. Yeti is just 3-4 years behind on this.
So true!!
I donāt think itās that bad honestly. 8.6K for a Yeti Turq model is actually not that terrible relatively speaking, and the weight and specs of that build really arenāt off from other competitors similar bikes.
That said āa lot like nothing elseā is deeply ironic because it looks like every other XC bike now. Not sure I can blame Yeti though since basically the entire industry has converged on these ~120mm FS high shock flex pivot designs.
Yeah, to me, itās a reasonable looking bike and a nice offering from Yeti (nice to see them re-enter the XC/DC space), but marketing it as something new and unique seems odd to me since it really is very similar to other offerings in that class and coming after other brands offered something in this space with this type of geometry. The class has been headed in this direction for a bit now, and to me, Yeti is joining the party rather than starting something new.
If you check out their Instagram they definitely lean into the idea that it looks similar to the blur and epic. Seems like maybe theyāre intentional wording things and are aware itās not a new platform???
Fair point. I wasnāt thinking of it like that but that definitely fits.
I asked their support chat what the flight attendant build weighs and they said a size large was 26 lb. That was surprising, not sure if that was a full bike with sealant, pedals, etc, but was hoping for less.
Itās funny, every time another one of these bikes comes out, we all mention the old Epic Evo as comparison.
I have yet to see any major reviewer actually do this. They always compare it to something else.
Pinkbike compared the new Yeti to the Oiz.
Why not compare it to the one we all mention, since when they did their testing a while back, the SWorks Epic Evo was the lightest out of the bunch and pretty much the one they all picked.
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I think that part of it is that they might only compare bikes released in the same year.
I think thereās another part where they donāt want to pronounce one a loser, so they limit the comparison group so that each bike can win at somethingā¦?
Totally agree. I think itās because the epic 8 is essentially a slightly tweaked epic evo. There needs to be a ānewā bike to hype rather than what we have seen all 2023 in XCO races.
Specialized finally gave us what we wanted (epic evo with flight attendant)⦠it just in a new shiny package. And if nothing else really nice new colors!
Because you lusting after and buying a new bike is what pays their wage, indirectly.
Why would they want you to keep what you already have?
Kudos to yeti for having cariable chainstay lebgth for each size, something thatās inexplicably missing in the Epic 8 considering thatās what we all expect at this point, a size s and a xl having the same chainstay length clearly has compromises.
Other than that the yeti is a nice bike, their marketing cleary is odd, nothing revolutionary, it pretty much looks and rides a lot like others based on the reviews Iāve read! Their build kits is also a bit odd, not sure why they decided to have 2 piston level instead of 4, clearly their target buyer is more trail oriented than xc racing!
not sure why they decided to have 2 piston level instead of 4, clearly their target buyer is more trail oriented than xc racing!
Did you get that the wrong way around?
Has anyone recently gone from a steeper head tube angle (HTA) to a slacker one and can comment on how big of a difference it makes to the capability of the bike?
My 2019 Oiz TR has a 68 degree HTA 74 degree STA. My local terrain and races is a mix, some more XC like terrain, but also on occasion some really steep and chunky black diamond (relative to trail ratings in CO) descents. I used to feel more confident on those descents but for various reasons (medical and otherwise) I canāt send it like I used to. I just get the feeling Iām going to get pitched over the bars.
A slacker HTA has to help with that⦠but question is how big of a difference does 3 degrees of HTA really make? Life changing or just moderately better?
I mean Yeti customer in general, also epic has 4 piston levl, blur tr has 4 piston level, seems like the weight penalty is well worth it, you have rekon/rekon race combo that nobody really is racing on, just seemed odd to me the choice for 2 piston level brakes
Not just 2 piston but old stock sram levels.
YOLOing here (Iām sure you can find it somewhere) but Iām pretty sure there are some tests out there that show pad choice and rotor (size and spec and surface area) make a much bigger difference than 2 vs 4 pot.
Iāve raced 2pots in enduro with 203 rotors. There really isnāt any heat dissipation issue with XCO because youāre on constantly varying terrain, rather than a 5+ minute descent where you might overheat a smaller caliper.
I absolutely adore my Hope XCRs though.