XC Race Tire Thread

Same, in for the Booster.

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Booster boosted

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Voted Booster as well.

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Same. Should have at least 6 votes now

Here is my unscientific results from a ray/ray combo vs a Rick/rick combo. The rays were 2.35 and 2.25 and the Rick’s are both 2.4. The Rick’s measure 2.35 on my 30mm internal wheels and the rays measured slightly less.

Recently I had back to back races at the same location albeit a different course, one portion of undulating, pine needle over sand, flowing course was the same and there is a segment (called, “twister”). Below are my power and times for each race. The most recent times are on the Ricks and tire pressures were the same 17f/19r.


Take it for what’s it’s worth. If anything, the most recent conditions were worse IMO because we haven’t had any rain and it was slightly more sandy. I felt the ricks seemed to float through the turns better with less bite although were predictable when stepping out.

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How was front wheel cornering grip from Ray compared to Rick?

Did the Ray feel less likely to wash out on the front wheel in corners compared to the Rick? Or did you not notice any difference?

The front Ray seemed to have more edge grip and they both were predictable when starting to wash out.

What’s odd is they felt pretty similar and I was surprised to see the faster times with less power.

I will do some more testing on my home course in the next few weeks to get a better idea.

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Which do you like more (comfort, steering behaviour, surefootednes, overall feeling in general), Ray or Rick?

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The jury is still out. This is a 7 race series and the first 4 were done with Rays, let me get a couple more races with the Ricks before I make that call. I had a lot of luck with the rays.

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Put another vote on the Booster. It’s got 7 now, so moving up quickly.

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I’ve had surprisingly different times on different days with the same setup and power on that segment (twister reverse actually…..it’s just easier to nail the same power for me vs twister “forwards”) so I hope the laps on the home course happen.

I’d just add that those are fast times…..comments on cornering grip going that fast have a lot of value.

Thanks for posting real data!!

Joe

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Thanks Joe. I didn’t even know where the actual segment started and ended so these times are pretty organic. And I love the trails at vortex but I really look forward to this weekend at San Felasco. I assume that course might suit a roadie better.

Hope to see you around.

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The Rick test results have just been published on BRR. Scored very well.

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I’m not sure why the Pirelli Scorpion XC RC ProWall is so underrated. At just 700g for a 2.4” tire, it offers excellent cornering, durability, and puncture resistance. I’ve covered 7,000 km with two pairs and only had one puncture, which was entirely my fault. I’ve raced on various terrains—from roots and rocky trails to the Cape Epic—and the tire has performed exceptionally well.

Before switching to the Scorpions, I used Aspens (sometimes with an Ikon on the front). In the last two months, I tried RaceKings, but their 2.2” width wasn’t sufficient for my terrain. When I returned to the Scorpions, I didn’t notice any significant difference in rolling resistance. Considering the terrain and cornering speed, the Scorpions are faster overall.

That said, I’m definitely looking forward to trying the new 2.4” Contis when they’re released.

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I see that… I have the speed grip versions that I assume have a slightly higher CRR.

I will try using more air psi this weekend and report the findings.

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These new drop’s looks interesting!

The Vallnord is claiming 620g for a 2.4 - curious on how it rolls, puncture resistance etc!

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I hope it’s a brand new compound, because all Bontrager tires I’ve tried to date have been super slow, unfortunately.

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How are they in the wet?

They are good. Not collecting the mud and fine on the rocks.

They have some interesting testing facilities (see here), which IMO should be better than drum testing for simulating real world rolling resistance on bumpy surfaces. I guess they just haven’t been able to develop carcasses and compounds that are as good as the other brands.

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