I was thinking of doing a Wicked Will Front and Rick XC rear for Breck. I have done it on Rekon Races and they were excellent. I also did 3 of the stages on 2.6 tires and did not like it, felt slow compared to my peers. I would think WW front and rear would be ideal as well - it must be faster than the NN you tested.
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LOL All I know is that schwalbe’s super trail casing is not fast!
I’m just trying to survive beck epic and sometimes it rains in the afternoon. Messing around with a flat on a long descent late in the day on the continental divide in the icy rain is something I really want to avoid, even if it costs some time. (In Florida we get these nice warm, soft rains that you kinda enjoy because it’s 150 degrees but in the mountains? No thanks!!)
Will or Rick with super ground is gonna be pretty quick with decent grip but when you move to super trail…you get durability I guess 
Joe
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Last year my wife ran Rekons (not race) in the EXO+ casing at breck - she was happy as a clam. She will be using the same tires this year. I will probably do the Rekon Race, highest volumne 2.4 XC race tire with pretty good durability.
My Breck tire experiment so far
Year 1 - Specalized Fast Trac w/ thick casing AND Cushcore - So much confidence in the system in the sharp rocks, but completely dull yuck feeling. Felt heavy. Zero flats.
Year 2 - Day. 1-3 2.6 Barzos - 1 flat, no inserts. Felt nice on the rough stuff, but slow everywhere else. I switched to rekon races (no inserts) and It was much easier to keep up with my peers in the non-brutal parts of the course. These tires really impressed me at breck. they felt very lively and quick to accelerate, made the riding fun again.
Random Breck Notes:
- Bring your own spare tires
- Have a pump! Dont rely on CO2s - they have never worked for me at breck for some reason - they keep freezin the valve and not going in.
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I’d love to test the exo+ casing vs. the supertrail casing someday but I’d guess they are similar.
I got a bunch of laps in yesterday but the track was wet and bumpy early and dried out and got faster as the day went on so the numbers are not looking great as far as consistency. All laps at 165 watts +/- 1 watt.
setup A=Nobby Nic 2.6 Super Trail 2.6 front + Wicked Will Super Trail 2.4
setup B=Racing Ray 2.35 Super Ground + Kinda Booster Pro SCT 2.6 (hey, it’s what I had laying around…“tough-ish XC” is what I am shooting for with this combo)
setup C=Racing Ray 2.35 Super Ground front + Wicked Will 2.4 Super Trail
Lap order was AA/BB/AAA/BBB/CC
Joe
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Was it front or rear flat? Asking because running a heavier rear tires is an option if we believe the rear takes more abuse.
Joe
Front - I always flat the front - pumping too hard.
There goes my theory about running a heavier tire in the back!
Just to report that in the las couple of weeks did 2 rides in the Alps with roughly 4000m each of downhill (and climbing…), in quite rough, rocky trails, using the 170 Team Spec Aspens. Lots and lots of sharp rocks everywhere, and not issues at all. I now have full confidence in that casing for any sort of ride.
My personal experience, combined with BRR puncture test results, makes me wonder why Maxxis was so adamant about these being “race only” casings
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Just signed up for Cheq 40. Know quite a few in my circle that have done it before so the tire suggestions are all over the place and wildly optionated. Leaning towards doing it on my HT XC rig w/ 100mm front travel. Currently have Racing Ralph/Rick XC in 2.25s, Thunder Burt’s in 2.1, and Terreno Zeros in 2.1 as options. Sounds like mostly grass track cross country ski trails which may or not be wet. Punchy hills I’m told in the second half. First timer and seeded in the last corral as a result but wanting to slay and maximize my result. Tire suggestions? Is the HT the way to go? Training plan that would be useful for these type of efforts? I’m primarily a MTB’r that dabbles in gravel. Completed Little Sugar 100k last year and trained for “death by 1000 cuts” and besides not being heat ready, it worked out.
I’d say FS if you have it, both the ski trails and fire roads can get pretty bumpy and rutted. Tire-wise, you could get by with Thunder Burts. There isn’t much cornering to speak of, so you don’t need much tread, and if Burts are enough for you to get up some steep rocky and grassy hills, they’ll probably work well.
I’ve done it on 2.4 Aspens the last few years because I prefer volume. Years ago, I did it on a cross bike with 35s and canti brakes, but that was a poor choice and definitely not optimal in hindsight.
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What’s the MTB Tire vote for this month? I still haven’t cast my July Vote on BRR…
Trinotal is already in so additional votes are pretty much wasted at this point, I voted for Continental Dubnital Race Rapid 29x2.2 as it looks like it’ll be in top spot to make it through next month.
Would have preferred Race Grip 2.4 - but that’s slated to go back to zero…
i would say Trinotal. Good chance that it will make it, and hopefully it will end the month ahead of the Maxxis gravel tire… which is close…too close to comfort 
Both will currently make it as of this point, they’d need to be passed by the Pirelli Cinturato Evo.
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I wouldn’t be surprised if the Trinotal Rapid Race turns out to roll faster than the Dubnital RR.
Based on my own experience, I estimate it at 19 to 19.5 watts versus 20 watts for the Dubnital and 18.5 watts for the Schwalbe Rick Speed.
But with much more grip, especially compared to the Rick.
In short, I think it’s the best tyre of the three.
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Thats what I would like to know too.
For the Ricks - are we thinking addix speed or speedgrip? I always just get the ‘blue line’ for my ray and ralphs.
I don’t like the tanwalls so I get speed grip.
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Too bad the Airtraks are slow, they are very light
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From my testing, I’d say it outperforms the drum test pretty strongly outdoors. Really wish regular folks could get the 2.5.
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