Hello, I was curious if the need to do a ramp test will go away in the future (near?) if with intelligence in the software and analyzing recent rides/workouts you have done, will your FTP be able to be predicted (with some accuracy) without needing to do the test?

Only item to address though…is you really dont end up in the right zones if you never test. Need to use something to get there. Intervals.icu is decent. I wouldnt shy away from testing.

Thank you to all those that replied to my question.

[image] brenth: I follow my data on intervals.icu. The estimated FTP is typically within a few watts of where I test via a ramp test. It is based on you doing harder efforts to determine where you should be in your FTP. I find it works well if I have been doing some harder all out efforts. My…

[image] CaptainThunderpants: My eFTP is currently 18W higher than FWIW my eFTP on intervals.icu is too high without making an adjustment to the default setting. As I understand it, I have decent short power and that skews the result.

With the intervals.icu eFTP does anyone know the duration of time they use for the calculation? I.e. how recent the all out efforts need to be?

check this thread: [image] Intervals.icu eFTP Results Yes if your short duration power is very good Intervals.icu will overestimate your FTP. You can set the minimum duration that it will use in /settings. Maybe you should go with 7 or 8 minutes. How it works, short versi…

I subscribe to Xert and their calculated TP and LTP from my ride data is spot on. Xert doesn’t need any ftp test data. People go try xert but dont bother learning the ins and outs of it so fail to understand it fully. Me, I love it.

[image] GeorgeAnderson: I subscribe to Xert and their calculated ftp from my ride data is spot on. But Xert calculates FTP from brakethrough efforts? Or I am missing something? And brakethrough efforts are basically maximal efforts. So xert does the same as WKO. eFTP from xert and intervals.i…

As mentioned above, Xert estimates your threshold power and lower threshold power from the data you give it. And I agree, you need to take time to learn how to use it. The threshold power it gives you is not the traditionally understood FTP metric. But what it does estimate is absolutely spot on.…

N=1 but I find that the ramp test consistently undershoots my FTP by about 10-15W. No matter how fit I am, I get to a point (usually at ~350W) where I physically cannot turn the pedals over to generate more power, but I’m also not done. I could continue to hold that power for another minute before c…

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bbarrera October 16, 2020, 7:17pm 29

check this thread:

sorry that is simply a random link into the thread.

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