Why no zone 2 in plan? [Low Volume]

[enki42]

@Larzi

I wish TR would try to go through the training intensity of their own MV and HV programs with the same rigor.

I wish TR did A/B testing their adaptive training. Randomly pick the workouts picked for someone to be biased towards a certain type of workout. They have enough people on their training plans to do this. Though this may be hard if an endurance ride has to be long since you won’t really know the length of the workout you’ll be doing (major issue I have with Xert)
I do wonder if they have data from non tr workouts that could be used to use historical data to judge how useful endurance riding is. But feel like that analysis depends on the functionality to analyze outdoor rides first to be able to identify rides that are zone 2 as even structured rides that TR can see the recording of from other platforms TR won’t really know what is happening till that part is done.

@mcneese.chad

That opens the discussion about what exactly “optimal” means. Best possible with no restrictions, or best possible within time limits that we see from many TR users. I would guess that the greater bulk of TR users are somewhere between 5-8 hours per week, so that will impact what is optimal, IMO.

This is why I wish plan builder let me set how many hours I have to do workouts in. I think they even said they are planning to do this. But feel like this is a hard ask. I mean I would say I have an hour before work and 2 hours after work I could plan to be on the bike for. I feel like time per day isn’t flexible enough to convey that and trying to figure out how to structure 2 possible time slots to use a day can get complicated.

[OreoCookie]

@enki42

This is why I wish plan builder let me set how many hours I have to do workouts in. I think they even said they are planning to do this. But feel like this is a hard ask. I mean I would say I have an hour before work and 2 hours after work I could plan to be on the bike for. I feel like time per day isn’t flexible enough to convey that and trying to figure out how to structure 2 possible time slots to use a day can get complicated.

Yeah, @Nate_Pearson said that this was desirable in several forum posts, too. I’d love that, too, and hope they will tackle that after getting AT v2 out the door.

[mcneese.chad]

@enki42

This is why I wish plan builder let me set how many hours I have to do workouts in. I think they even said they are planning to do this.

Yup, existing feature request we use, and Nate mentioned more than once on the cast and in the forums that it’s something he wants added to the feature set:

• Time limit options in Plan Builder [Feature Request]

[WombleHunter]

@Power13

ut across the whole Strava population or even just as a percentage of active users at the time, it is actually a pretty small number.

But we are talking about the number of TR users that are unwilling or unable to to do long rides on the turbo, which across strava population, or a percentage of active zwift users at the time, is a tiny number.

[WombleHunter]

@mrussotto

Good for you

Thank you, it’s take some commitment, and some mental health issues that didn’t allow me to leave the house, but it works to my advantage now

@mrussotto

but after 90 minutes on the trainer I’m bored and my ass hurts a lot. I think there’s probably a LOT of people in that category.

Sorry to hear that, maybe asking chad about his setup, he like I spent some time working at it, bike fit definitely helped me, and movement in my trainer

@mcneese.chad

I knock out 2.5-3.5 hour rides on the trainer every Sunday. But it’s taken a while to dial in my setup and approach to make it tolerable initially to being actually enjoyable now.