I’ve noticed that the endurance/recovery rides are all significantly longer in their outdoor variants. Screenshots below show the difference between riding outdoors for a recovery week and riding indoors. I massively prefer riding outdoors, so I end up just riding in endurance zone without loading a…

The assumption is that outdoors you’ll be doing a lot of stopping, coasting, etc… if that’s not the case just cut it short and pocket the TSS.

Yes, the lack of breaks makes indoor rides much more efficient. The most common figure cited is an indoor ride is equivalent to an outdoor ride that is 1.5 times as long. That’s basically what you’re seeing on the given examples, a 60 minute indoor ride is replaced with a 90 minute outdoor ride.

Have the same problem: some rides are ridiculously long as outside version. Therefore I also hesitate to load them on my Wahoo and try to replace them with similar TSS rides of the same length as the original indoor ride. I would appreciate some possibility to choose the inside version to be pushed…

I’ve always seen this as a flaw of outdoor endurance workouts as written in TR. I generally target the TSS and try to go as long or longer than I would do indoor. If you have a decent route choice available, you can pedal 95%+ of the time. I don’t think there’s any way that a ride averaging 200w (pa…

The thing that doesn’t make sense about this is that the sweet spot, over unders, threshold, v02 max workouts are all the same duration whether indoor or outdoor. It’s only the endurance/active recovery rides that are longer outdoors. If I follow the prescribed watts in the outdoor workout for the …

I don’t get the dramatic difference, either… maybe that’s meant to account for stops or something? Even then, my elapsed time outside is generally less than 10% higher than moving time. Ultimately, I don’t worry too much about it. I just get the TSS, maybe even add a bit more, and enjoy the Z2 outsi…

[image] Duration Different From Indoor to Outdoor Workout TrainerRoad Software Ultimately, each athlete has to exercise some agency in deciding how much time needs to be added to get to your interval spot, traffic navigation and stops included. It will look different for …

“Needs to be added”… I actually have the problem that I can achieve the goals much earlier. Stopping there might mean I would miss out on some intervalls which are planned later in the session.

Yes, there are multiple factors that go into that. When you’re outdoors you should still strive to hit your prescribed intervals without taking any breaks, especially as the intensity increases. That can get challenging with longer SS and Tempo work, but the intervals are the important bit here. Tw…

Had this issue today, in fact. Pettit outdoors (so 90m rather than 60) - picked a long, flat straight out and back, focused really hard on keeping pressure on the pedals (less than 60s coasting in total), and ended up with a TSS of 71 (rather than 39). I enjoyed it and it was a good session (could r…

Why are endurance/recovery rides so much longer in the outdoor versions?

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bbarrera January 11, 2021, 5:29pm 13

because TR’s inside workout is 39 TSS, but the outside version is 52-71+ TSS. But TR wrongly claims the outside version is still 39 TSS. So either ignore TSS or do the outside workout around the same amount of time as the inside version.

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Why are endurance/recovery rides so much longer in the outdoor versions?

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