What are your unpopular cycling opinions?

I don’t think that is fair. You listen to Nate talk about it he is legitimately excited about. I think it was more that they were blinded to how some people would react.

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:bullseye:

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I think there are two attributes of the model that are in conflict but balance each other out.

  1. Yes, you can game the system and change ratings and mark rides easier than they actually are, eventually either you will fail a workout or the system will learn your new scale and adjust accordingly Like the guy who has a 3 level system of easy, moderate, and fail

  2. if you schedule a ride harder than the system likes it knocks down your predicted FTP.

I think at some point the gaming will no longer be effective and what will remain is that the system will lower your FTP if you try to do too much and that is beneficial.

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That isn’t what happens if you rate a workout easy. If you rate it easier than the model expects then the next workout is harder.

The only example I saw of what you are talking about was someone trying to game the system and was doing back to back workouts. In that case they had a history of failing workouts. So the system trying to give them easier workouts made sense.

The workout picker for anyone who isn’t trying to mess with it has been solid. The AI FTP is noisy but that is different than what you are claiming.

Post your examples of you rating Threshold or similar workouts easy and getting lower workouts as a result.

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It rewarded you with a 6.2 rating for that workout vs the 5.0 that the workout was initially rated. Then gave you a harder workout then that 5.0 next as it gave you a 5.5.

Could you share your training the weeks before and after the 5.5?

Did it later adjust correctly?

Can we take this to its own thread or one of the 20 others you noticed? This thread is supposed to be fun!

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I can’t really express how much I love this apparently unpopular feature

Joe

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Cloudripper -3 is a hard, not an easy or moderate, workout :rofl::rofl:

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ok, I’ll bite…

BSA is the best bottom bracket standard

Disk brakes are overkill on road bikes

In towns, bike lights should point inwards and illuminate the rider not the streetlamp-illuminated road

Cars should be built so that the driver is as vulnerable as a bike rider.

Traffic lights should be optional for cyclists and pedestrians when it’s raining.

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100%. What actually defines self worth is how long you can track stand at a red light.

Self worth x 2 if track standing on a downhill.

Self worth x 5 it track standing on a cargo bike.

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I definitely need the light pointed at the street, but I do like the idea of a backwards beam that points at the bike (not blinding the rider). It wouldn’t hurt to also have a different colored blinker on the downtube or something.

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I’ve looked at under bike lighting, get those Fast and the Furious vibes :sweat_smile: Do currently have 2 rears and can use one to glow up the road around the bike, also less blinding for other riders (it’s a very busy commuter route).

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I just recently switched from a very old OG Neo to a KICKR V6 and while I am happy with my purchase, one of the things I miss most is that the Neo had a light that lit the area below me with different colors based on intensity level. When you look down and see red, you know you’re about to be suffering!

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Do you any Hue lights? Luckily for my partner, our trainer only has 1 Bluetooth channel, else they’d probably be getting quite annoyed with the living room light changes :joy:

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Christmas tree lights in the cargo bike FTW.

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Personal experience: marginal ftp change up or down don’t translate to better or worse performance in real life. Every second on the forum people are screaming that their predicted FTP got lower by 0.5W to 10w . In my opinion this does not reflect in real life cycling specifically for outdoor riders that don’t have ERG to nail 100% of the power target. I haven’t heard any outdoor rider that complained about few watts and felt his performance is worse than month before with proper training i.e without overtraining or missing workouts. Maybe some Time trial cyclist will have different opinion, but for average Joe is brag number. I have experienced big swing in fitness like any norma human being and you can feel it.

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I agree that the minor wattage debates are silly, certainly as it applies to using FTP to calculate interval wattages. But 5-10 watts on you time/power curve in the context of real-life performance can be huge in race situations (particularly long races of attrition). And to a large degree, that power curve is a function of FTP (along with a bunch of other things).

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It is possible to ride safely on the road while wearing earbuds and listening to music.

I’ve been doing since the wired earbuds and minidisc days of 1997-2000. Since then, I’ve never had one single accident or near miss with a motor vehicle due to listening to something. The only issues I’ve had are a couple of cases where another rider has overtaken me on my left and I didn’t look back.

I’m constantly looking over my shoulder when I’m out riding solo which is most of the time. I pull out my buds during group rides because it makes sense, but when I’m solo, I leave them in. Wind noise is pretty annoying, so sometimes they just help block that out.

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Ooh, controversial! Strongly disagree with this one.

Edit: though :100: for Minidisc :smiling_face_with_sunglasses:

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