UNBOUND GRAVEL predictions

Not a fair comparison. They both struggle on the crossovers. JPM was fantastic in Champ/Indy Car, did well in F1, and was meh in NASCAR.

There are some people who could cross over if their talent was nurtured, Jeff Gordon is arguably the most talented US racer of the 1990s, he just was making way more money here.

It’s the same with motorcycle racing. They are European sports and, not surprising, the team managers / crews / sponsors tend to rally around their guys, and Americans typically have a hard time getting favorable treatment to match their talent… actually this sounds a lot like bicycle racing too :face_with_raised_eyebrow:

Anyway, back on topic, the ex TDF / Grand Tour riders are just legitimate professionals, where fast amateurs would be comparable to like a D1 college athlete. Every step up is a big jump. It’s like any sport.

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And he only weighs 150-160 so the numbers are impressive

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Is Simmons the only current world tour racer going? Are the EF guys doing it again?

Some of the EF guys who probably would are at the Daulphin (Lachlan is).

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Matteo Jorgenson is doing it. He rides for Movistar.

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  1. LTD - From the coverage I saw of Gravel Locos is looks like he has just hanging out before he deiced he would attach and win.
  2. Pete- Looks to be in great form. Would have problem finished in 2nd at Gravel Locos if he didn’t flat with a few miles to go.
  3. QS - Looked great in the spring and has been doing some monster rides out in Utah the past few weeks.

Quinn Simmons for the win!

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that’s because they are medium fish in a small pond in north america, but when the full european scene gets opened up they are a medium fish in an ocean with much larger fish/whales.
i cant knock strickland for his career choices, he’s turned down pro team offers and has shown he can race at that level, but he has positioned himself to be the top of the game, but not the top of the big leagues.

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Ivar Slik is pretty strong

Underdog

That’s the story of competitive cycling: Unless you’re Tadej Pogačar you’re either sandbagging or getting your ass handed to you.

This feels relevant to this thread, even if only slightly.

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Unless you make it a rule, it’s not going to happen.

At the end of the day, it’s racing, and the bigger and more professional it gets, the more it’s going to look like pro racing.

“Tradition”, “spirit of the competition”, is all just for talk, and means nothing, without being an enforceable rule.

I know Colin is painting a romantic picture of gravel racing, he can’t simultaneously pretend it’s grassroots while making a living off of it with big sponsors. It’s kind of a “I’m protecting my turf while hiding behind tradition / grassroots ethos” piece.

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I’ll take Amity and Stetina

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Basically.

The gatekeeping by Colin here is ridiculous. When there is $$ involved, all bets are off. He’s basically saying, ‘Hey all are welcome, the more the merrier. But we - as in a few of us ‘pros’ have these rules we all sort of follow and listen, you better play ball or we are going to throw shade’

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Didnt Peter S say in 2019 when he did the race it received in the top 5 of media clicks for trek racing. This was on the Bobby and jens podcast. With marketing like that 5 years from now we will see more pros come over to race it

Seriously. He is a RedBull athlete, sponsored bt Rapha, etc, but since he has all that now, he decided he’s going to he the gatekeeper?

I dunno…Strickland’s column came across as kinda whiny. “Hey, we just like to have fun and kinda race, but not as seriously as you guys”.

TBH, this was very much the attitude in MTB back in the early 90’s when the Euros showed up and started kicking everyone’s ass.

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He has complained about people skipping water stops in the past and saying it’s not right to do that

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But why? If you have enough water (or believe you do), why are obligated to stop for others who planned differently than you?

If someone can also get their stuff faster in a water stop, why should they be obligated to wait for everyone else to get rolling again?

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It is the sure fire way right now to get recognized as an American. You want to go pro or get your name out there? Go do well in the larger gravel races.

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