There's No Good Reason to Buy a Carbon Bike šŸ’©

Pics, needed please!

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Legor by Mattia Paganotti

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The latest generation of Canyon SLX frames and forks seem to be breaking like crackers. I wouldn’t be surprised if there’s a future recall. So, it’s not a thing if the past.

However, it seems to be at points where the pieces are bonded together. It’s a manufacturing issue not a material issue. Same thing would happen with aluminum or steel frames that are not properly welded.

Is carbon manufacturing more complex and more prone to errors than steel or aluminum?

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Holy schitt……that is gorgeous!!

Damn fine bike pjorn…thanks for sharing!

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Thanks man, appreciate it!

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Or F1 car.

Likely just a Haas tho.

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I had to trash two carbon bikes in the course of a year. Both times I got nailed by a truck/SUV. While the bikes looked fine, I just couldn’t justify the risk of failure at the worst time. Even an ultrasound wouldn’t reassure me.

I’ll throw this one out there;
I have arthritis and need the lightest bike so I can put it in the back of my truck after a 100 mile ride when my hands don’t work correctly. I chose carbon.

To say there is no good reason to own a carbon bike is firstly an erroneous statement filled with bias and secondly carbon can offer certain things metal cannot and vice versa, once all the opinions are levied it can and should come down to what an individual wants not what any person, group or entity may espouse. I have owned some fantastic carbon bikes that could not have been built in any metal and served me extremely well and I’ve had steel, ti and aluminum that have been excellent too. Bottom line is all materials can make fantastic bikes.

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Interesting article that was worth reading, but I still find fault with much of it.

Mr. Weiss’s point that ā€œa carbon bike is thrillingly cutting edge until it’s about two or three seasons old, at which point it becomes yesterday’s hunk of plastic and nobody wants it, including you,ā€ is truer now than for any material in the past.

This closer is just silly as a person who apparently eschews chasing trends and then stands on a point about ā€œcutting edgeā€ or apparent newness as a reason to downplay the relevance of a bike in any material. Does he think that is new-age steel hawtness is immune to that since it is so plain that few would consider it cutting edge outside of the boutique buyers drawn to what can only be had via custom builders these days?

It’s just about as dismissive of non-steel material as I take my microscopic read of the O topic that I barely find more value other than the nuance he adds that if it is what his customer (or anyone else?) wants, then it’s OK. Hardly a ringing endorsement of personal choice for any reason and more of a slight against those who may choose from the ā€œnormalā€ options rather than reach to the fringe for less common choices.

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I don’t think I’d trust any bike after a hit from a vehicle, regardless of material.

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Wow - my early 80’s Specialized Epic has just become a boutique beauty, after nearly 45 years of just being a noodle.

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One of my all-time favorites and I have a friend with several examples on hand. Those are the more artsy versions while Trek lugged carbon of the era hold a spot in my heart as well. Here are two of his bikes.

I remember those very well and they were great in their day. Unfortunately there was much not known about bonding carbon back then. I have a friend who had an Allez that had the downtube disbond from the BB. He was able to pull the tube off by hand. Unfortunately found this out the night before Death Ride.

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Yup, many of them have not held well with age. Definitely requires some work to review joint status for anyone wanting one of those for actual riding.

A good friend worked for Kestrel back in the day. A lot of the first frames had a very high failure rate. I think he still has one of the better ones.

Sorry, I had a Trek 2300 with Shimano DA 7400, and it was the wettest noodle bike I ever ridden on. Mine was 1989, and I couldn’t wait to dump it. I worked in a shop that carried mainly Treks so I wasn’t too much in the red. I switched over to a Specialized shop closer to home next year and sold a few Allez. It was on par with the 2300. All summer jobs during college. Both remind me of the Vitus 979 and equally bad investments if you want to ride it. The Vitus looks cool in the attics of the campus bike shop where I also worked. The bike manager hid it away because he was so embarrassed and could have been fired for misuse of student union fees for stocking such junk.

Carbon tubes with white lugs / stays?

  • No need to apologize. I don’t own any of those I mentioned above.

  • Outside of my typical admiration for the history of bikes, build materials and techniques, I have no allegiance to the Trek or any other bike of the era. I certainly wasn’t holding any of those up as prime examples of performance and never stated anything even close to that.

  • I just like the looks of them more than anything.