Looks like about 350 feet climbing per lap with the majority in a punchy climb just under 3 miles into each lap.
Not sure Cav would appreciate that! He’s from the Isle of Man, not England. I don’t think the England team will have an out and out sprinter
Of course he is 
. I had just been talking about that yesterday too lol.
Either way, I think the Welsh, NZ and other teams will be sending strong riders up the road. Could be anyone’s game I guess.
Kiwi team looks pretty strong actually.
Our track team is seriously firing 
. Road team has potential, always tricky to know as it depends so much on the tactics of the other strong teams and getting in the right break lol.
Either way, I don’t imagine the Williams brothers being heavily involved, but I am glad for their involvement.
This isn’t cancel culture, I don’t have any desire to cancel him, I just am not a fan of brawling and when I see someone doing it then I don’t have good feelings about them. Lets not make everything political.
I’ve raced on many of these roads, many of times. There’s nothing, in terms of lumps and bumps, in this course, to trouble riders of this calibre. It’s got all the ingredients to be very quick.
What I would say is that if the British weather turns up and it rains, the roads will be slippery, especially those in and around Warwick town centre. They are also narrow and packed full of road furniture.
Good call deleting that post.
Moderators… This poster seems to be saying that countless videos show that certain races are aggressive like it’s some sort of proof that certain races are more aggressive. This is like white nationalist propaganda. Have I read it wrong?
Wait, you’re calling me racist because they post videos head butting other racers and pushing them into the gutter? Not only is this completely off base, I find it offensive and and it doesn’t help this discussion. I think you need to take a look in the mirror man and re-read my post.
You know it to be true.
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I might be wrong but i read the “they” as “legion” rather than anything racist 
Same. They are gratuitously aggressive and enjoy hyping it up. They would be better off playing football where that kind of aggression is part of the culture.
Oh o.k. I see, the they in this case is Legion, yes maybe I was mistaken.
I do not follow crit as much as as some other people here. But where can I see he videos of legion being borderline illegally aggressive during a race?
I would assume headbutting someone during a race is not legal, or is it?
IIRC there haven’t really been any in the past couple years, but Cory has posted compilations of footage from 4-5 years back that was pretty agressive. Most of the really egregious stuff you see from his channel is from 2016-2017 I believe, before L39ion was even a team.
Most recently, Rahsaan Bahati has posted some videos highlighting dangerous/aggressive riding (by others) in masters fields.
https://youtu.be/dOlldHrUTkk (end of this video)
https://youtu.be/klxyk2Co5MU (about midway through this video)
IMO, this has been an issue across all fields and has been well before the past couple seasons when L39ion existed. If you haven’t listed to the Criterium Nation podcast link I posted previously, it’s a good one. Adam Myerson recounts how bad it was in the 90s-00s and how (he thinks) it can be fixed.
“The publicity behind Legion has plenty of people energized for bike racing in Southern California and no one else has near the following they do in the sport.”
eh idk about this part. I know people that don’t want to race if legion is there because they’re basically a pro team with a ton of riders in each race and it’s too hard to compete against them since they will bully you out of their train.
At the local grassroots level - which is what I was talking about - Legion shows up with the Williams brothers in LA, Orange, Fresno counties. They don’t roll the full squad to most of the local races, Redlands probably being the one exception. No one doesn’t show up because they’re coming, and they draw interest for the pro races that no one else does. No one cares if RideBikesBros or ButcherBox or LABC or whomever else has riders in the field. When they see the Williams brothers, they stay to watch the pro race.
I’m not speaking anecdotally. I race here and live here. I see it week after week. I saw Justin’s crash and I saw the response from rival riders who went back to help tend to him and help him. Seems outsider perception, in this case, isn’t matching the reality on the ground where these guys got their start.
The only two Legion riders in the field at Manhattan Beach were Justin and Cory. Cory won. Justin finished 7th pro/18th OA after a leadout. No bullying, they just outsprinted everyone. Justin’s going to be able to race Masters’ fields pretty soon. 