I’m wondering if given the age of the Red group, it’s not straight forward which is the best shifters. Red is 4 years old Weight difference is minimal. (~25g) Force ergonomics “seem” better. Official differences: Red models are available in flat and post mount, while Force is only flat. The new…

Functionally, both are identical, and if you don’t mind the visual mismatch, I’d go with the cheaper shifters. Some people go on about the girth of the Red and Force v1 shifters, but I find the girth of my Force v1 shifters perfect for my hands.

Coming from shimano di2 the RED definitely took some time to getting used to. They are pretty bulky but with size 11 hands they are not too bulky either. It’s definitely personal and you should check both out at your LBS. I have wired blips plugged in - a feature not possible with force. But wireles…

I can’t think of a good reason to get Red unless you’re going as light as possible. Or just want the extra bling. I have smaller hands and don’t mind the old Force/Red shape. I do prefer the narrower new Force/Rival shape, but not by enough to change my existing old Force levers. Are the RD jocke…

At the moment, the only thing RED has more appealing to me is the color of the brake calipers. I think I’m going with force and upgrade to RED if the new updated version 2023/24 is compelling enough.

My major issue with the new style SRAM shifters are the transition from shifter hood to bar. Every Rival bike I’ve seen has had this heinous bump from the hydraulic hose connection coming into the shifter and the hoods often leave a gap as well…I haven’t seen anything with the new Force shifters, so…

[image] saverin: transition from shifter hood to bar. [image] [image]

I know those bumps are in a location that you’d seldom place your hands/cause issue, but when you’re paying a premium for SRAM’s top teir group, I would expect a better transition :angry:

[image] saverin: SRAM’s top teir group To be clear, these are pics of the new Force, not Red.

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FrankTuna July 19, 2023, 4:12pm 7

Preach!!! That looks similar to the bump on my Ultegra 8070 Di2 shifters and it drives me nuts. I needed to wrap more tape on that bump and wear gloves most of the time to deal with that. The older Force AXS hoods are just soooo comfortable in comparison.

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