Road tubeless experiences

Kristoff must really really like his WTO 60s to risk using them at the Roubaix!

As an owner of those wheels that’s my takeaway from the article!

Hey gang,

I’m totally new to tubeless tires, and have been riding 28mm Schwalbe Pro Ones for the last few weeks. I have been super stoked with them!

Today, I was buzzed super hard by a loser in a lifted truck and had to skirt into the shoulder, which was full of glass shards. Got 3 punctures on my rear tire, but two of them sealed up right away. The 3rd and largest seemed to have a hard time sealing, but my pressure wasn’t dropping like crazy so I made it home fine.

Now that I’m home and can take a better look, it appears that the puncture doesn’t leak air when its down at the bottom (where I’m assuming the sealant can pool around it), but when the puncture is pointing up, it occasionally starts to leak a bit air after a minute or two.

My question is about what the best thing to do to take care of a puncture like this? Any tips or pointers? I’m guessing I will need to remove the tire from the wheel to put a patch inside or something, so I’ll probably need to hit the bike shop because I cant get the tire to seal with my floor pump. Any advice is appreciated!

How big is the cut? If it’s not massive i would be tempted to just put 10-20ml more sealant in and spin the wheel by hand until it closes up. You will have lost a lot of sealant by the sound of it.

Also, in the past when i’ve had a puncture keep re-openning I’ve fixed it by deflating the tyre, picking out the sealant “plug” before re-inflating and letting the sealant have another go.

Don’t do what I did the first time in this situation and leave the wheel with the puncture at the bottom overnight - turns out the sealant just drips out then and you just find your bike sitting in a pool of liquid latex. It needs the high pressure air to make it go solid.

Josh thought it was because the 25s in question were limited edition tires that had some super low rolling resistance (~a few watts saved per tire). World Tour teams were on allocation…4 tires per team. So Kristoff kinda fell for the induced scarcity hype & went with 25s at roubaix against the better judgement of pretty much every mechanic & DS in the last half decade.

So that false scarcity ploy by the manufacturer was brilliant right up until that point! Ha! If that story is true, btw…

You can plug or patch the hole, if you chose to patch you will just need to clean out the sealant before you apply the patch so that it sticks. Also I have switched the Stans Race Sealant as it has larger physical media to help seal the larger holes that you might get. You might need to top it off more often but there is a bit lower chance of a sealant shower while riding.

Also I picked up this pump on Amazon which has allowed me to seat all of my tires on a Reynolds Attack (had to put sealant in first), Shimano RS61 (no sealant), and 65mm deep Light Bicycle Chinese Carbon Clinchers (no sealant).

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B071G6127N/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8&psc=1

Hutchinson Fusion 5 elevenstorm all season (what a name!) 28c
Fulcrum racing 4 DB disc wheels

Went on without levers and were seated with an airshot. the combo has performed well since (the wheelset bearings are shite but that’s another story)

The tyres themselves are great, I run at 85 psi and they cope with mixed surfaces and crap roads really well.

They are due new sealant so I might pop a pin in one to see how they seal at pressure, that’s not tempting fate is it?

The Conti 5000 TL in 28 I preordered months ago are final on their way. I hopefully will get them mounted for weekend riding.

Quick question - what has everyone been doing in terms of the amount of sealant for 28’s? I’m thinking about 50 mL per tire. I’ll probably go with Orange Seal Endurance on this so I don’t need to refill as often.

30 or 40ml

I did this as well and then later read that the standard formula is more capable of sealing the high pressures used in road tubeless so I switched over to standard. Still lasts for many months, and if you use a syringe with removable valve core, it’s super easy to check and change if needed. Giant also sells a giant syringe just for this purpose now.

Thanks - great tip regarding Endurance vs Standard formula. I’ve mainly been using Endurance on my mountain bikes. I have some regular Stan’s, so might end up using that instead then.

This morning I was looking and a “fulfilled by Amazon” seller had 4 sets in stock and mine arrive on Tuesday. Did you get a chance to ride them?

Unfortunately mine didn’t arrive. There seems to be a mix up with the online shop I ordered them from. They called me a week ago and said they got them in but the credit card I pre-ordered with had expired. I gave them an updated number but they have been stuck in “Order Being Packed” since… I emailed a few times and am hoping to hear back tomorrow. So my 70 mile road ride today was still on my 4000’s with latex tubes…

Got mine.

Nice! It looks like mine are finally coming Monday. Unfortunately I’ll be out of town that week so it will be a little while before I mount get some rides in on them.

These Conti 5000 TLs are definitely a tight fit, which is a good thing IMHO. Started out at 8am and put tires in sun until 5pm. Was barely able to get the front tire mounted using all my tricks, but my left thumb is maybe 50% from a low speed crash 11 days ago… and by the time I noticed a blister on the right thumb the rear tire was clearly not going on without a stronger pair of thumbs. Off to LBS… Some high school kid was in front of me with a broken pedal and couldn’t afford the used $5 replacement, so a few #PayItForward minutes later he was thanking me and back on his bike. LBS mechanic muscled tire on, clearly my thumb is still jacked. We had a little problem with the valve stem, and it was closing time so going back tomorrow with one of my spare valve stems (and submitting a ticket with Enve). At home I put 100 psi into front tire, without sealant, and will see how well it holds air overnight.

Props to you. That is the stuff that makes life worth living and the world go around in the right direction. :+1:

I finally have figured out how to get the Schwalbe Pro Ones onto my Prime rims, but there is no way they will go on without levers. My issue has always been that they are so tight and all the messing around has peeled off a section of rim tape which end up with air leaking around the valve. 5 times to finally get it to hold air and even then, it started out leaking a bit and the sealant finally did its job after ~24hrs

Should invest in a tire bead jack.

Yeah, but I’m impatient. I figured out the secret formula now and on/off 5 times has loosed the bead a bit as well :wink:

Apparently the next super tool we need to make is a tire heater/stretcher to “prep” a tire for installation :stuck_out_tongue: