Hi everyone, I’m trying to get an understanding of what it takes for an average person to get to 4watts/kg as a goal. I started cycling 8 months ago. I couldn’t even ride 10miles on flat road at the time. Now I’m doing 60mi/6k rides without needing too many stops. I have a goal of reaching 4watts/k…

[image] Larzi: He is a freak of nature with his high FTP and extreme explosiveness. But not a sustained climber. He is way too heavy for that. Still don’t believe he is 6,5 w/kg - but I might need to change my wording a bit :joy: #impressive #beast

He is not. His strava data setting suggests he’s around 5.7 w/kg (which seems quite low for what he can do). At any rate, this is an impressive performance right now. I’m in full fanboy mode right now.

[image] pnzr: but look at him climb right now. look at him relative to the climbers, like Buitrago

MvDP is a generational talent for sure and he has an amazing ability to ride above the red line for long periods of time but he’s not a climber. He puts on a great show as a bike racer. He also appears to be about as lean as he can be. There’s no way he’s losing another 5 or 10kg.

[image] mcneese.chad: This proper pic moves that mid-point up 0.5 w/kg to a 2.75-3.00 w/kg range and changes the overall framing of the topic a fair bit IMO. Sorry again for the mix-up that lead us down the wrong path. Hey Chad. Does TR have this histogram for raw power, regardless of FTP? …

This is from the same Bell Curve topic, further down. Might be what you want? The Bell curve of cylists - how fast are the average TR users? - #203 by Nate_Pearson

just a sidenote: There was an interesting discussion on a Norwegian road cycling podcast recently about climbers vs. sprinters and one of the hosts said he in the past often got questions from non-cyclist like “So, you’re a cyclist right? So you can outclimb someone like Thor Hushovd or Alexander K…

VDP would probably have the best w/kg for 5mins, WVA for 2mins, someone like Cav or Bennet for 30s…if you are looking at threshold you are probably looking at Prog or Rog…light GC contenders who can TT and sprint at the top of mountains…horses for courses…either way it’s a different world from us me…

This may not be straightforward to answer, but do you have any sense of the mix of intensity of the additional volume? For example, was it mostly endurance-pace riding, or a mix of training zones?

Road to 4w/kg, what does it take?

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mcneese.chad May 25, 2022, 4:54pm 244

This is from the same Bell Curve topic, further down. Might be what you want?

The Bell curve of cylists - how fast are the average TR users? - #203 by Nate_Pearson

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