Reasons for bringing Phone or not

As one who has stopped bringing my phone on rides, I am curious as to reason for bringing or not bringing the phone on rides.
My logic says if I need a phone someone in the group has one or a person will pass by with a phone.
Thoughts?

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Itā€™s just for safety, no other real reason for me. I used to not bring it, but I was young (and dumb?).

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I canā€™t think of a valid reason to not have a phone with me on my rides.

Running is a bit different as Iā€™m usually closer to home and it is genuinely a hassle to carry. :man_shrugging:

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As others have mentioned, I canā€™t see any upside of not having it, but I can see plenty of downsides and potential risks. Beyond the obvious safety aspect, I enjoy taking pictures along my rides and would hate to see something exciting or beautiful and not have it. As for the weight, even on climbs it is so minimal as to be immaterial in most circumstances. The only rare occasion I donā€™t bring it is on hillclimb events when every gram matters and there are spectators and race services nearby, but even there itā€™s probably not going to make much difference.

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I honestly canā€™t think of a good enough reason not to bring it? The only thing I can think of is to ā€˜disconnectā€™, but that can be accomplished by turning your ringer and notifications off.

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so do you use that same logic for an extra tube or multi tool?

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I canā€™t think of any reason not to have my phone with me on a ride. The only possible reason is that conditions are so bad that it might get wrecked - but thatā€™s when you are most likely to need it for an emergency so its not a valid reason.

Aside from several ā€œcalls of shameā€ over the years to get a ride after an insurmountable mechanical, Iā€™ve been around a several crashes (and been part of one myself) where if not actually lifesaving, it certainly significantly sped up getting medical care.

Like a flat repair kit, every rider should have their own phone. Even in a group, you never know when youā€™ll end up alone. And while somebody will come by eventually, it could be a few minutes or it could be a few hours. Sitting on the side of the road with a broken collar bone is bad enough without making an afternoon out of it.

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Spotify. Garmin LiveTrack if I am going off-grid on my gravel bike.

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Iā€™ve broken my phone a couple of times already (tipping over during mountain biking. I have a watch with 4g so I usually use that in case of emergency but unfortunately no maps and no pictures.

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the 'gram, duh

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I didnā€™t bring it once on a spicy group gravel ride. TBH, I was trying to save the weight. Then I crashed and lost contact with the group and ended up inconveniencing them because they didnā€™t know where I was, and I wasnā€™t answering the phone. It wasnā€™t worth it.

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Would you say the same about a spare tube or nutrition?

@BillyWaldman beat me to it!

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But how do you take pictures?!?

Also google maps is just far superior to any mapping on my device. Need to find roads, paths, cafes, petrol stations, look up train times, etc.

Also I wouldnā€™t want to rely on somebody else lending me their phone. Most of the reasons why an actual phone on a ride is needed is because someone got lost.

The only rides I donā€™t take my phone are very local rides with a high chance of crashing, eg CX or MTB skills sessions. And races.

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Having recently crashed which caused three three non-displaced cervical fractures I cannot see why you would not bring a phone. Laying on the ground waiting for the EMTs to take me away I was able to talk to my wife and others to let them know about the crash and that i was ok(ish).

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It is really hard to listen to music or podcasts when I donā€™t have my phone with me. :crazy_face:

Seriously, thoughā€¦.as others have stated, I canā€™t think of a good reason to not bring my phone with me. Or perhaps put better, I canā€™t think of a single reason why I would want to ride without it.

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I bring it on rides to listen to music and take pictures. But when Iā€™m ā€œracingā€ it stays in the car. I figure if I go down hard enough that I canā€™t ride back, then Iā€™ll definitely need help and all the races I do are supported. If itā€™s unsupported, Iā€™m taking it with me.

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Mine comes with me, livetrack could be important. And if a rider crashes etc, I canā€™t really count on using their phone for a variety of reasons. Network coverage, I think we all ride some where coverage gets spotty for at least some carriers, the more networks you have access to the better. And generally as others have said, I try not to rely on the group for anything.

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You could get dropped, the group could have to split up for some reason, livetrack, audible, being reachable in case of emergency at home. Itā€™s nice to detach, but honestly, I donā€™t deserve to detach for 10-12 hours a week.

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Thatā€™s a pretty poor attitude expecting other people to bail you outā€¦ You donā€™t want to bring your phone, so you are expecting someone else to. Do you also not carry a spare tube / pump / CO2 / etc. expecting someone else to?

This might sound harsh, but itā€™s true. You are expecting other people to dig you out if you have an issue, just so you donā€™t have to carry a phone that weighs 7oz / 200g?

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I take it not only for my safety, but for others too: To take pictures of someone elseā€™s accident. To record the ā€˜environmentā€™, the surroundings, the damage, the lighting, the position of those involved, and perhaps recording the reactions of those involved, and the authorities that show up. Such documentation can be extremely helpful in a bad accident. In an area with few witnesses it can come down to the perpetrator telling a long form lie about what happened. Iā€™ve heard some stories of drivers swiping cameras on bikes they have hit, so documenting any cameras, helmets, lights, clothing on the rider(s) involved, etc could really help too. So I carry mine for them, as well as me. I posted a video from a ā€˜bike lawā€™ group that spelled out the idea of being someone who documents the results of a crash, and does a better job than I just did explaining what should be documented.

Securing the phone is a whole conversation. Baggies and expensive ā€˜walletsā€™. Plus placement in back pockets is important too, but I digress.

What happened to me: I wish someone had a camera and footage of the Manhattan cab that pushed me (several times too) with their bumper. Yeah, it actually happened, it was assault, and it should have been a chargeable offense because if a cab driver is going to literally try to push me, they are more likely to do worse, like cut a cyclist off, or ā€˜brushā€™ them with mirrors, etcā€¦ If I had had a GoPro, it would have been an interesting video.

Um, for not bringing one: Landing on one, or losing it somehow? But Iā€™ve only found one cell phone in all my years of riding, and the owner had lost it months prior and had already replaced it, according to their provider. :person_shrugging:

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