Yeah, although the big bragging rights around here are the Wed World A Loop and B+ Loop. So I tie my “verbal FTP” to some recent long-ish effort, and its flat around here so this nicely maps into a Kolie Moore test type effort (and forum discussion). My training ftp for z2-z4 rides is close to the verbal ftp, while above threshold is based on power curve.
My current verbal ftp “276W for 32 minutes a couple weeks ago” when talking with riding buddies that have roughly same power. The B+ Loop KOM was set in October by a guy with similar power requirements. He averaged 291W / 27.3mph for 31+ minutes in a 4 person rotating paceline. So verbal ftp is really about sizing up my chances of hanging onto a fast train on Wed night.
Outside those riding buddies, I’ve only heard FTP come up after a couple of pitchers of beer, and only because we were amazed by how little power one slippery guy needs to hang ("is your power meter broken? and “its not fair” LOL).
All my (sunscreen protected) tanning hours are on the bike, and it’s not yet sandal weather for me, so does riding with no see ‘em socks make me vain and not cool to ride with?
Lol, er wait. Is this like “I’ll never pee while riding ON my bike”? Cause yeah gross. But what about jumped to the side of the road, bushes not too bushy, strain your neck backwards looking for cars coming both directions, stretched bibs with one hand, kinda leaning and well some pee might have hit the bike somewhere…on my feet or something.
There was a funny thread on beginner triathlete about 10 years ago where one newb in particular thought that people went #2 while still on the bike and proceeded to test this out, while on a group ride.
The plans aren’t cooking people…people are cooking themselves. Pre-AT it was hard to gauge how to back off. Now there is better feedback on what the right intensity should be, and a more conservative ramp rate of the progression.
Regarding LV vs. MV vs. HV - I find LV to be the most strenuous. 3 super hard workouts per week, rather than 3-4 kinda hard workouts. Regarding that, one thing I haven’t seen talked bout it is that PLs in a given zone don’t seem consistent for different durations. A 60 min threshold at a certain PL always looks noticeably harder to me than a 90-120 min threshold at the same PL. The 75min and under threshold workouts are full gas from the start!
Watched the video with him and Phil Gaimon. Ummmm yeah I’m going with tri-guy. I’d rather have Simmons body than Phil’s for sure. Even if it meant I could be in the World Tour if I looked like Phil.
