Gravel bike options

I’m at 3mos on my 3t exploro and have had zero issues with the seat bolt. I’ve also had zero issues with the rest of the bike. In fact, I really like it - I’ve order a set of wheels to which I’ll mount 28mm tubeless tires for road rides. I feel this is one of the strengths of the 3t - road bike fit, with a relaxed front end and clearance for large tires.

I’d buy it again.
Eric

Yep, assuming that all pressfit BB bikes are trouble is a pretty broad statement to make. As long as the BB she’ll is sound, any BB with a thread together sleeve will work in all applications. E13 makes several, wheels manufacturing (as you mentioned)…there are others.

OK, but I never said that…I said given the high incidence rate of creaking, and my own experiences, I would choose a threaded BB over a pressfit. A threaded BB is just a better design.

Do you feel better having cleared that up? Hope so!

And the lint of that post was what, exactly.

My bad for trying to make sure what I said was not misrepresented.

Tailwinds

I bought a T-Lab X3 before everything went crazy. They are still building it and I expect it to be shipped in the next couple of weeks. Full GRX Di2 and then bought a second set of wheels for road use. (Chris King R45 hubs on Nox disc specific rims.) Slack geometry that goes with a gravel bike which should also be great for super long rides.

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I built an Open back in December and love it. I’d recommend reading Gerard’s thoughts on bottom brackets (he designed both the exploro and Open I think). Someone brings up the pressfit concerns in the comments, post #83 OPEN Updates - What you should know about Cranks & Bottom Brackets

I got the Wheels MFG thread together bb and have had zero issues fwiw. From my test riding when deciding what to purchase, the Exploro is a bit more race oriented, Open is a bit more “Just a fun day on the bike with no worries”. Depends if you plan on racing gravel or not really. Other than that they’re similar.

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That’s exactly why I got mine!

Yep, good description of gravel bikes. I have a Giant Revolt and completely slammed the stem to get into a semi-aero position. Seems like they double down on the high stack with the fork clearance and head tube length. No reason for both for those of us that are flexible or vertically challenged.

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What wheels and tire size are you running on your Open?

I’m running 700x40 maxiss ramblers for gravel, and got an extra wheelset with 700x28 GP5000TL for road riding (It really is an N-1 bike)

All those bikes are great…I got the Allied Able but it could of been any of the others…That said, I love this bike!

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This gave me a flashback; I was looking for an Exploro to complement my 3T Strada and saw a great deal on one but it had the previous fork with a 15mm front axle. That’s a hard no, I want easy wheel swapsies! Also their seatpost bolts are probably interesting like my Strada. I spent a long time torquing it, doing a workout, wiggling it around, re-torquing it and eventually it settled down over a week. Now it is as solid as a rock. However, if I ever need to take that seatpost out I will cry the saltiest possible tears.

Like some others have said, Wheels Mfg. and BBInfinite seem like great options if you have a horrid BB experience. I have a BBInfinite creeping slowly from Arkansas to Brighton in the UK for my TT (I think it’s in London right now).

Also, a suggestion out of left field: Thought about metal frames? How about a Mason Cycles Bokeh? More of an “adventure” bike, but I love mine and wouldn’t hesitate to take out on some rough stuff. Threaded BB too :slight_smile:

I have had a Trek Checkpoint SL6 for coming up on 2 years and absolutely love it. The Isospeed thingie does smooth out roughness quite well. I find hitting trails with it just great fun, and a good mix up for road rides. I typically run 700 x 40 mm, and run tubeless of course. I hate changing out tires and wanted more flexibility to have something narrower and faster for smoother, more hard surfaces. So this year I bought a second set of wheels, Trek’s carbon Bontrager Aeolus Pro 3V TLR, which has a wide 25mm internal width and is designed in large part for faster gravel. I am running 35 mm on those. I like the easy wheel switch for tire change. I was thinking about some gravel events and trying to do my best pace. This pandemic year I am just enjoying getting out away from it all.

How is the frame compliance on the Able? Does it do a good job absorbing the small bumps in the road?

The Checkpoint is not a bike that has been on my radar but I’ll check it out

I’ve had a tough time finding good reviews on the Able and really want to know how it rides. Is it a harsh ride?

Aspero, Argon18 Dark Matter and this:

All 3 pretty awesome!

The OP referenced the True Grit, but there have been no responses so I’ll pitch. I do not have a True Grit, but a similar frame, a Parlee Chebacco with a Lauf fork. Before the Lauf, on longer (100k) rides I was feeling beat up in my upper body toward the end, or 3 hrs into a race. Legs were fine, well they were ok, but shoulders arms took a beating. That’s what propelled me into the Lauf and I’ll never look back. Best investment in gravel I’ve ever made. It would be worth the effort to at least try it on a long ride and see for yourself.

Get the bike you think looks coolest for the best price and of which you see the least around you. You’ll enjoy that most is my guess. They’re all good setups.