Dedicated Pain Cave PC

I’ve had good luck with prebuilt systems from PowerSpec over the past few years, something to look into if you have a Micro Center nearby. They’re generally built with off the shelf parts at a price that’s hard to beat if you built it yourself. Not always the best component selection, but better than the oddball OEM parts you often see from the big brands. The software is clean too, only giveaway is a custom splash screen.

Trainerroad on the phone. Apple TV for Zwift. Works very well.

1 Like

Skip to the Budget Addendum of this article: Zwift on PC: The Ultimate Guide to Running Zwift at Its Very Best | Zwift Insider

TLDR: buy an inexpensive small form factor business PC and a low profile graphics card.

Zwift performance (I don’t know much about RGT performance) is mostly determined by the graphics card and to a lesser extent single-core performance. You don’t need anything crazy to run it, just a decent graphics card.

I like NUCs, but you aren’t going to get the graphics performance you want unless you go with the gaming version ($$$) or get an eGPU as you’ll be relying on the integrated graphics. The business PC would be much less expensive. I was considering a HP SFF business PC off Amazon for $250 and a graphics card. Zwift in 4k is crazy, so if you want to go that route invest a little more in the graphics card. But beware, if you go 4k you will never want to go back.

3 Likes

Sames.

4 Likes

@gpl so this is what’s running all the route badge live streams? Is it also doing all the “show your iphone” stuff at the same time? Definitely overkill for me right now, but pretty impressive nonetheless.

Are any of these PC options able to boot up (near) instantly like a tablet? I like the idea but being able to go out to the garage and get started almost instantly is really beneficial currently.

As long as you’re using an SSD it should be pretty darn quick - - not push a button and screen up instantly quick, but like 15-30 seconds quick.

1 Like

You don’t need to turn a PC off. Just let it go to sleep and then wake it up. It should be ready to go in a few seconds.

1 Like

My tip is to get a graphics card with multiple HDMI ports. Then you can run a TV for Zwift / entertainment PLUS a second smallish PC monitor (they are cheap) for TR.

2 Likes

Zwift and TR also run well on the same screen with TR in horizontal mode - - I pretty much do all my indoor training this way on a monitor connected to my laptop and with the larger TV setup for Netflix, Prime, YouTube, etc… all the distractions! :joy:

3 Likes

Partly for you @tropicalcycling and partly just for anyone stumbling on this:

I’m about to build another box just for TrainerRoad, Zwift, entertainment while cycling, and streaming, and it’s going to be:

i5 9400
16bg ram
Z390 board
Basic case
Cheap, basic SSD
1660 Super (could change around with the new announcement and shifting pricing, but the 1660 Super has the NVENC (new) encoder and is more than plenty for the…
Dual 4k screens

That’s a more-than-plenty computer for TR and Zwift and is coming in around $750 USD (excluding screens). It’s compatible with the awesome RTX voice filter, good for 4k Zwifting (not at top framerates ever, but very solid), and very good for TrainerRoad.

3 Likes

I’m honestly surprised at the multiple commenters in here really caring about 4K for Zwift. I run Zwift off my old HTPC into a 42" TV sitting on the floor in my room and watch movies/tv series on my 65" Plasma mounted to the while just above with bias lighting and everything. Neither of the TVs are 4K and not sure I care yet. I do have other 4k OLEDs in my house for my real watching of stuff. 1080p is plenty for how much attention I pay attention to either Zwift or the stuff I’m watching while riding. Especially with how close it is to my workout area.

Zwift is interesting for a little while but I can’t stare at it the whole time. I pretty much just look eveyr now and then to make sure the power number is around where I think it should be and go back to watching whatever else.

Money isn’t really a big obstacle for me but I can’t imagine going through the effort of changing everything out (HTPC, media streaming box, 2x TVs) just to get 4K.

I do like the idea of throwing up TR on my screen now that I have started using it though. The first few days since I signed up I just have put it on my phone handlebar mount and left the screen/pc I was using for Zwift completely off. Probably woulds be nicer on the full TV instead of just my phone. Even just from a positioning perspective.

3 Likes

Can you run Zwift and TR at the SAME time?

How would this work? Which one is in control of the smart trainer?

If you’re going to run TR and a graphics intensive app it’s worth considering a multiple monitor setup. You can get a crap second screen for hardly anything & it doesn’t need to be good to show TR. I actually have three. The accessory ones are so bad. The colours suck. You need to be looking almost straight on. They’re ~15 years old and I had them from back then. I run the software in windowed mode.

There’s loads of hype exactly now about the ‘3 series’ from NVIDIA & so people are flogging used older cards super cheap right at the moment. You can get a second hand GPU that is completely overkill for not much.

If you can be bothered you’ll be able to build a far better system if you do it yourself than if you buy a prebuilt system, particularly if you don’t mind used stuff. You don’t need cutting edge stuff to run cycling software.

1 Like

Why not use an iPad? It’s more reliable, less fiddly and you’ll have a built-in camera/mic setup for when you want to use the group ride feature. (Yes, I know, it isn’t out yet for iOS.) If you want or need a bigger screen, you can mirror the display to a TV.

This is an example of the setup I ran for a number of years - - 19" (?) full screen monitor off my 7-8 year old laptop with Zwift and TR running at the same time, and a 24" (?) monitor with a Chromecast on it for watching everything else (Lionel Sanders golfing in this case :joy:). I finally upgraded the setup this past fall/winter picking up a cheap 55" Hisense Roku smart tv during Black Friday sales for the entertainment watching and still run Zwift and TR on the same screen, but on the 24" screen now.

1 Like

Where is the new setup pic??

Just got a new PC - Got the G5 Dell with the following upgrades:

Core i5 10600KF +$98

GeForce 2060 6GB +$147 or Super 8GB +$196

Memory 2x8GB +$98

256 GB SSD + 1 TB HDD +$78.40

Only issue I have with it is when running Zwift the Graphics occasionally freeze for a couple of seconds. I suspect something else is “taking priority” but I need to figure it out. I have been recording Zwift races and it is awesome. So much better than my old apple.

Also check out this article on Zwift Insider for more Info - Zwift on PC: The Ultimate Guide to Running Zwift at Its Very Best | Zwift Insider

2 Likes

@ericallenboyd here ya go! @gpl was right. Quick trip to the store got me a decent enough Dell. Plug it it, log in, download apps and i’m up and running. I’ll put some more memory in later and maybe an ssd just to make boot up faster, but this works great for now.

4 Likes