Sufferfest should use this exact ad for their “new” ramp test 
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Depends. If you are in a group ride, it can be quite chatty. I did a Zwift century yesterday and we had chat for over 4 hours with great discussion at times.
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That’s crazy.
They really should! It takes all the silly over-seriousness of MAMIL culture and owns it 
Funny thing is I don’t know anyone that’s really “fast” that shares the suffering fetish…
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Now I wonder which of these groups is on Sufferfest and which on TR 
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I definitely use both TR and Zwift. Been using TR for ~5 years, when I first got my KICKR. I couldn’t afford a personal coach and wanted to get fitter and faster. TR did the trick. Then Zwift came out, been on that since Beta. I use TR for my workouts and Zwift for riding/racing (especially now). It is a good balance.
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