My favorite of all those is the Wahoo KICKR Move.
But whatever the trainer, some sort of motion is really important. I have an SB20 StagesBike too, which I love, and my life became infinitely better when I put that on rocker plates too.
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Iāve been riding my Kickr V6 since February and itās been flawless in every way. I have it just on the fixed feet, but reading these posts it looks like Iād really benefit from some sort of rocker. After 1.5-2 hrs, my butt gets pretty sore - much more so than outdoor rides.
Seems that the added motions might help with overall saddle comfort, or is it more just the realistic feel?
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Definitely comfort
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I love my OG Neo and it has been flawless for many years. I never use road feel though.
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Whilst I think they do some of the neatest products, Iād be a bit wary of Elite stuff and their ability to handle ERG but Iām only basing it on a sample of 1 and my Elite Suito. Its form (compactness/foldability/portability) is winning for me at the moment but its ERG is terrible!
Poor ERG performance is a common theme for Elite trainers here over the years. If thatās a priority for someone, Iād suggest something other than an Elite trainer.
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ERG in Elite trainers is definitely a different beastā¦it is 100% NOT āset and forget itā like other trainers. I used a a Direto (and later a Direto X after a warranty of the Direto) for a number of years and I cam to refer to it āErgsistanceā as it seemed to be a blend of ERG and Resistance.
In ERG mode, it is much more sensitive to changes in cadence and force. As a result, your power tends to wander a bit more over and above the target number, but not massively. If you just let it do what it will do, it will correct itself and get back in line, but not as quickly or steadily as other trainer.
I actually came to really enjoy ERG mode on my Diretos because it allowed me āoverpowerā on intervals when I was feeling good or simply up the watts on recovery intervals (which I find way too low on most TR workouts).
But it definitely takes some getting used to and is probably not eveyoneās cup oā tea when it comes to ERG.
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It is also less of an issue if you use resistance mode for anything but endurance rides (which I do). At lower powers, it is easy to force the cadence you want.
Hi everyone, has anyone of you considered the Cycplus T3?
Specwise, it seems to be at least on par with the rest and currently on Amazon there are quite good deals on it (in the US, at least 
, not so much for Germany, where I live and want to set up a second setup at my workplace village).
Otherwise happy Neo 2T user experiencing frequent flywheel slippage, here.
This is pretty much an accurate description of my Elite Zumo. It seems to aggressively lower when you go over target, but it slower to ramp up. Itās fairly useless for intervals of less than 1min because of the settling time. On most intervals, the average wattage is 2-3W under target, so I compensate by going a bit higher when building my own workouts.
For the last 4-5 months Iāve pretty much only used ERG mode on my wahoo v6. While my experience/sample size of trainers is 1, it seems pretty flawless for easy rides and intervals. It is very smooth and quick going from 150 watts to 300 watts. When I slow my cadence it quickly adjusts to keep the resistance the same.
Hereās a chart showing power and cadence on an interval workout in erg mode. Power in purple.
Do you think the this is better than the Saris MP1 platform?
Yes, in every way possible.
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Ive got a Direto for the past 3 years, replaced the belt once, has just kept going. Evertime ive powered it up it works perfectly, do a spindown every 3 months.
Can you elaborate pls?ā¦Iām in the market for a platform system. Thanks a lot!!
My full length review is posted here in the E-Flex thread. I will try to post a link when I have time to search later, so TLDR bullet points for now.
- Saris MP1 is huge and heavy. No joke to setup and move around if/when you need it out of the way. The E-Flex is so damn small and light when not in use that itās trivial to put away.
- MP1 is non-adjustable lean force and itās set very stiff. Some people like it that way, but it will never allow what I consider proper pedal to lean timing when standing. The E-F is fully adjustable from stiff to very loose.
- MP1 is tall and less stable to get on and off. E-F is as low as a regular bike and tou are on solid floor for mounting, easy.
- MP1 is pure lean action control. Fine and functional as thatās what I used for years. E-F has combined lean and steering input for lean control. This is more like real riding outside and the best Iāve felt other than rollers.
- MP1 is only better since it can fit any trainer and even some smart bikes. E-F is locked to a single trainer in most cases. InsideRide has sold upgrade parts to users when they swap from one design to another though.
Likely more but thatās off the top of my head before coffee for now. 
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Iāve had alot of trainers over the last 10 years.
I know this wonāt be a popular answerā¦just get a Tacx neo and be done with it.
You can thank me later.
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yep. thereās a reason you see riders in the tour warming up on neos. they just work.
Iāve NEVER had to ādick aroundā with mine. I turn it on, it connects, and I start my workout.
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+1 for the KICKR Core + InsideRide E-Flex setup. My KICKR is ~4 years old and still working great, added the E-Flex about a year ago and am super happy with it. Best and most realistic ride feel (fore-aft motion, side-to-side motion with realistic bar input too). Simple, light, adjustable, seems pretty bomber. If mine were stolen Iād buy the same setup again.
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With respect, that pro tour use really has little to do with the typical needs of us weekend warriors. Not to mention that we could easily point to the Wahoo & Elite sponsored teams so that is a wash at best. The Neo series are great trainers but have known faults that may matter to some (some bikes simply wonāt clear the forward trainer frame, some disc brake bikes have caliper contact issues, some still complain about āwheel slipā), dead units are easily found in the FB group so thereās no perfect here.
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