I am hoping you might be able to send me the information for the Whoop engineer. I am also using Whoop as well as TP.
Thanks.
hi, I think you can do it yourself now. Make sure the app is up to date but if you go to settings, you should see a section for TrainingPeaks. Let me know if you don’t see it.
I don’t see it. Just downloaded the app to start with my whoop.
It is IOS only right now so if your on android that might be why its not showing up for you.
I have iOS.
in the whoop app if you go the the hamburger menu > settings > trainingpeaks you should be able to connect your account.
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Been on TR for about 2 mos now, using WHOOP for just shy of 6 mos. Happy to see a cycling-focused thread about it anywhere since WHOOP doesn’t have its own support forum.
Initially I was impressed, especially in the way it was driving me towards better sleep habits and helping me understand estimates around how much sleep is needed based how much I did that day. I also admire that they built a wearable that really only does the one thing — no buzzing, no notifications, not even time of day.
I have to say that the recovery score feels like a slot machine every morning. I can go a few days with excellent sleep and low activity and it’ll tell me I’m overworked. Or I’ll go hard with back-to-back cross races one day and it’ll tell me the next morning that I’m 90% recovered. Many times it’ll mis-calculate my sleep as showing me getting up hours earlier than I actually did, and in those cases my recovery score actually appears higher than when I update it to reflect my getting more sleep.
The write-ups on their site imply that you can taper your efforts to work towards being recovered for races or other events, but I’ve never figured that out — it feels like I’m simply reacting to the scores I see when I wake up, but I can never depend on it enough to use it for planning ahead.
I’ve asked their support people about some of these issues and their answers never quite make sense to me. I just don’t quite understand how it’s working, and combined with what feels like random feedback from the app, I don’t really feel like I can trust it.
Interested to hear if anyone else has had a less than ideal experience overall, most posts in this thread seem pretty positive.
What is the hamburger menu?
Weird, it should be there. I guess try contacting Whoop support and see what they say.
strange. You can email greene@whoop.com
he is the engineer
You need to contact Whoop support via any of their methods (I used SMS) and request to have the TrainingPeaks integration added to your account. It’s still a beta feature, provide them your Whoop account name and email.
I did send in an additional request to have them sync the “user input” metrics like stress/fatigue/etc as right now it only syncs the biometric values.
This (orthorexia) is a very serious issue actually - it can lead to people being utterly terrified of anything deemed ‘unhealthy’.
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I have to say that the recovery score feels like a slot machine every morning. I can go a few days with excellent sleep and low activity and it’ll tell me I’m overworked. Or I’ll go hard with back-to-back cross races one day and it’ll tell me the next morning that I’m 90% recovered. Many times it’ll mis-calculate my sleep as showing me getting up hours earlier than I actually did, and in those cases my recovery score actually appears higher than when I update it to reflect my getting more sleep.
This has been my experience also but I may have figured it out (for me at least).
I switched to the bicep band and the automatic sleep detection was really… really bad. I also noticed my recovery scores started to seem very random.
Switched back to the wrist strap and the sleep detection is just about spot on again, and my recovery scores are closer to how I actually feel and seem quite a bit more sane.
I’m guessing the way they measure HRV requires pretty accurate sleep times so double check that your sleep time measurement is accurate.
I think Whoop might be having some trouble calculating my sleep because of my similar sleep habits. I generally get a decent amount of sleep at night, from say 10pm until 7am, and then I tend to take a nap of an hour or two in the afternoon. I find that I have a better chance of completing TR workouts in the evenings after that. Yet, Whoop consistently says that I’m low on sleep, and doesn’t alert me that a sleep activity has been processed?
I’m a new user, so I might be missing something. Is it possible that my sleep quality is so poor that it doesn’t register? I feel like I sleep okay. Thoughts?
I manually input my naps, as whoop doesn’t autodetect them. I find it to be pretty accurate on nighttime sleep though. Have you tried inputting your naps manually as an activity?
I haven’t because I was hoping they would be autodetected. Do you think it’s concerning when Whoop doesn’t identify naps as sleep? Is there a problem with the quality of the sleep from napping that causes it not to register? I’ve only been using Whoop for a week or so.
I’m not overly concerned with it. My RHR is often similar when I’m napping and when I’m sitting on the couch. If WHOOP detected sleep every time I was in a rest period, the numbers would be skewed. Just manually input your naps and see how your sleep performance and calculations change.
Also, with only using it for a week, the system is still catching up to your habits. I’m not sure you can put a lot of weight on your captured metrics yet. As I recall, you’ll have a pretty clear picture after about a month of tracking.
I’ve been using WHOOP since Christmas - it has been fantastic at validating how I feel, and predictive of when I might be getting sick. I haven’t been able to adjust my training days to match my peak recovery days, but it’s nice to know when my heart is telling me to go hard.
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It’s hard to say what is going on, but I have learned that just because you are "in bed " for 8-10 hours doesn’t mean you slept for 8-10 hours. This pertains to sleep quality, which considers the delay in going to sleep (latency), how many disturbances, the length of your REM and deep sleep, etc. All this is impacted by your sleep hygiene, your diet, what you eat before bed, if you drink coffee or alcohol beforehand and how much, what you do directly before bed (read? stair at the TV, computer? meditate?), etc. And then sleep consistency is also important, which is going to bed and getting up a relatively the same time.
Do you have activity auto detect on? If WHOOP is not recognizing that you are sleeping, then try just manually starting your sleep when you are in bed, then manually ending it when yo get up (start and end activity from the main menu). Also, you are sleeping from 10 to 7, and then taking a nap? That’s 10 hours of sleep, more than enough if you sleep quality is good. Also, it is generally not a good idea to take a nap after 3pm or so, because it can make it difficult for you to get to sleep at night.
To your other question, I suppose if your sleep quality is really, really poor, WHOOP would not recognize it. This would mean that when you are in bed, your RHR does’t go down, and your HRV does not reflect the usual indicators of light, REM, and deep sleep…which would be alarming…AND would explain why you need a nap during the day after 8-9 hours of sleep!
Interesting, something to think about here. Thanks!