Maybe things have changed with the new version, but in the past, they were very clear that it needed to be tight to get accuracy. I’m not saying it’s not possible to adjust it, I’m saying they said not to wear it loose if you wanted accurate data.
Like I mentioned, this isn’t unique to me, and was a common complaint when I was wearing mine. Just google “whoop strap irritation” and you can find comments and pictures detailing it. Again though, maybe things have changed with newer versions.
Cool, I have no vested interest in you liking a whoop, just the tightness thing struck me as weird as I hardly notice mine
Yeah that search does come up with results, but so does “fitbit ittitation”, “garmin strap irritation” and “whoop 4 comfortable to wear”
Anyways, have a good un
(And suggestion to those people not wearing on their wrist, dcrainmaker, in his review of the 3 wore it on his biscep, the 4 has additional wearing options) … or just by a Oura (although searching Oura doesn’t bring up 0 results)
https://www.google.com/search?channel=trow5&client=firefox-b-d&q=fitbit+irritation
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Yep. My point wasn’t to be right or wrong, it was just that you and I having different experiences doesn’t invalidate either one. That’s the problem with wearables. Skin tone, hair, tattoos, skin health, body structure, etc., are so different from person to person that it’s hard to get good advice. It’s like saying “is a Fizik Arione comfortable”. Unfortunately, the answer is always, “it depends”.
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dumb question, but isn’t there anything avail on Apple Watch that calculates daily strain and recovery yet? I mean if you have a 6 or later you have sp02 and hrv…why isn’t whoop also licensing the app into the Apple Watch universe of data? Seems like it would be an instant subscription base gain, especially given the fact that the whoop seems to be a bit of a lost leader as priced?
Maybe I’m off base or dont’ know something about the ‘always on’ biometrics space? @dcrainmaker ?
Yup, the Athlytic app is about as close as you get in this realm (and, is pretty good). On my longer-term to-do list to do a review on it.
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downloading now. I’ve been using auto sleep, which I think is pretty solid, but sometimes I find the ‘deep sleep’ metric spurious. But I have not control to compare it to so 
I have used Athlytic for a few months - I like it - I dig the numbers. They make frequent updates that seem to make the product better as well. Nothing ground breaking, but I like to monitor stuff. Its got a 7 day free trial and then $24.00 USD a year or something like that.
I’ve never used a Whoop so I can’t compare
Athlytic really needs to up it’s marketing game unless it’s really new. I was searching for something like this a couple months back as I was looking into Whoop but didn’t like the idea of wearing another device, not to mention the monthly fee but didn’t come across this.
Downloaded it last night and giving it a try. Really looking forward to a @dcrainmaker review on it to see how it compares to Whoop. Going to have to be fairly lacking comparatively to make the whoop worth it though…a year is cheaper than a month (not counting the device of course).
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Yeah I downloaded it and it actually pulls data from Health immediately. Solid insights and totally worth the money IMHO. Athlytic if you are reading this…sponsor me/I’ll become a brand ambassador. Good product.
I’ve been using Whoop 4.0 with bicep strap just over 1 month. I am still getting to “know” it better but initially it got too much in my head and screw up my training. Last week, i cancelled a VO2MAX and a threshold workout when I saw I was a low yellow recovery. Today I did a outside threshold workout (productive), which I usually struggle with a 30% RED recovery. So no more guiding my workouts based on Recovery scores for me.
Also found out my HRV didn’t change much on long stressful operation days (I am an eye surgeon)…
I will continue to use Whoop though as i feel my sleep hours are getting better with the sleep coach. Previously been monitoring my sleep with the Galaxy Watch(no coaching) and using HRV4Training to monitor daily HRV changes…
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That’s some strain right there. What are you doing to get that and what are your recoveries looking like?
It was Bike Transalp 7 stage MTB race. Recovery was great during the race but on the last day I caught covid…
Yep, New Variants now making even outdoor gatherings like the starting line, less safe. UGH! Also Amazing recovery considering the load.
I have had one now for 3 months, but honestly, going to stop wear it soon… And it comes down to one thing that Whoop still haven’t gotten right, and that is the response to high parasympathetic activity.
It pretty much means that the body goes into “hyper recovery” due to training stress. HRV shoots up and HR goes way down.
Whoops simple algorithm thinks you are super recovered, when instead you should be in the red and take it easy that day…
I was super excited about Whoop when I got it, but then just realised that it didn’t correlate at all how I was feeling, and could have fantastic days when in yellow or red, and dreadful days when in green.
Its too expensive to tell you to sleep 9 hours, not drink, take a rest day 1-3 times a week, not eat too close to bedtime etc.
The rest is just a big estimation based on HRV and HR, which doesn’t give an accurate picture all times.
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Posed this question in some Whoop communities but going to post it here as well.
Got my Whoop in February and have been using TR since last August: so almost a year. Been doing Plan Builder to do a mid volume plan which involves Sweet Spot base plans.
I have been doing well with the plans so far and been feeling fine: not burnt out or jaded and have been seeing great gains with regards to FTP and just feeling stronger on the bike. Looking at my Monthly Performance Report here are how my average HRV and RHR been trending:
Now, I understand using solely HRV and RHR as metrics to guide my training is questionable but this trend definitely has perked my ears up. Sharing this information in some other online communities the general consensus is “You’re overtrained and need to to dial it back for a bit”.
Thoughts? Should I dial it down or as long as I feel good “Damn the Whoop numbers. Full speed ahead!”?
Also having had an Apple Watch I do have a demonstrated history where RHR goes up in the summer and drops when I approach the fall.
I gave up on monitoring this stuff as a metric to guide my training. I’ve done it with Whoop, Apple, and Garmin, and it generally just doesn’t match up with my personal feeling. So frequently the devices say I’m wasted when I feel fresh or Vice versa. Extreme example - this morning, my Garmin says my “Body Battery” is 100%, but I am completely exhausted after 3 days of training and spending 8 hours a day in music classes, and I desperately need a day off.
There might be something to all of this in the future, but it’s just not there today. Lots of athletes being paid to sell product.
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How many days per week do you train? Do you sleep and eat good?
Train 4-5 times a week. Doing mid volume sweet spot base with general build and some type of rolling race specialty.
I sleep well. 7-9 hours of sleep a night.
I eat what I want: I don’t really watch what I eat and don’t make an effort to eat whole foods. I like to eat and such and could probably make a better effort on my diet.
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To give you an idea what my training load is like.
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