Does anyone have a WHOOP discount code I can use for my birthday (thanks wifey)
Try, Eb or EB the editor from Men’s health has a lot of videos on Instagram where he says that code gives you discount.
WHOOPLIVE used to be one where you get 25$ discount, or WHOOPLIVEEU if you are in the EU.
They give out a discount code at the end of each podcast
This is one of the struggles I’ve had with Whoop. If I have a scheduled recovery day, but then log a 98% recovery score, I don’t necessarily skip the recovery day and go hard (maybe I should?). And because I normally train first thing in the morning before work, if I have a scheduled hard workout that day, and my recovery is in the red, I might need to skip that ride. But because I’m such a terrible sleeper, and it takes a few minutes to sync the app, by the time it syncs, I’m awake for the day. Just kinda sucks to wake up at 5:00 AM (or earlier) only to find out that I should probably skip the ride and go back to sleep, which I normally cannot do at that point.
But honestly, if I’m listening to my body and seeing trends, it’s extremely unlikely that I’m going to go from 95% to 31% in one day preceding a hard workout day… unless I had a terrible night of sleep, in which case I’m already going to make that judgement call at around 3 AM to skip the ride.
I typically start my workout before I even look at my recovery score. It’s expected to see a red day here or there, but as long as I bounce back quickly it’s not something I worry about.
If I get a low score that is unexpected based on my training load, I typically can trace it back to needing more food and/or a good nights sleep.
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I’ve been using whoop for almost 6 weeks. Really interesting stuff. Listening to their podcast. Learned a lot about sleep.
What I like about how whoop presents the data is that it’s easy to understand and most importantly is something you can take action on. The whole Sleep Consistency and Sleep Efficiency is very interesting stuff
On the negative side, my wallet suffers as I get closer to the end of the month when I have to pay $30 Dlls for the whoop subscription. For trainerroad we pay almost half and we get tons of value. I am not saying you don’t get value from Whoop but still very expensive for me. However, I will continue to be a member for the next few more months. The support isnt great either, I think Whoop support is overwhelming with calls, therefore the response at times is very slow. However, they try to make things right. Like I said, in my case, they replaced my unit and they gave me 1 month subscription for free for all the trouble
On the not so positive side. I think the Whoop unit isn’t very accurate. I have compared with my HR Strap and even with my apple watch. Just recently Whoop replaced my unit because the readings were way off. But even the new unit sometimes I find it a bit off when I compare it with my HR strap. So my HR strap isnt going anywhere. I am still using in my rides even
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Curious how many people wear a watch of some sort (apple, garmin, polar, etc) and the whoop?
I wear Whoop 24/7 on a bicep strap and use it for HR on outdoor workouts.
I often also wear a Garmin Fenix 5 although sometimes wear a traditional watch. I use the Garmin to log other activities, for HR on indoor cycling workouts (also have it linked with my Wahoo Headwind for HR fan control), and sometimes for mapping when hiking. The Garmin also does other smartwatch things like notifications, stopwatch, morning alarm, and sometimes music streaming.
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I asked as I’ve only used the whoop for a short time. Mostly cycling last year but switching to running and cycling moving forward. Garmin 1030 for cycling and 945 for running and hiking. For cycling, I’ve used the Garmin dual heart rate monitor, curious how whoop holds up against a heart rate strap. Too many devices to choose from.
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I’ve had really good success with the Whoop as HR monitor but do wear it on biceps. I used to always wear a Tickr, but don’t anymore as I find the Whoop readings consistent. I find the Whoop is better (more consistent) than my Fenix 5 which occasionally jumps around and gives spurious readings.
On the biceps I wear the Whoop high enough that my cycling jerseys slide over it and keep it firmly in place. A tighter fitting sleeve helps as this keeps the Whoop in place while mountain biking.
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Hey, @Jonathan, any updates on the WHOOP? Saw it on your wrist during the last podcast, Ride Like a Pro. It’s been almost eight months since you commented on the device, so maybe you’re finding it enduringly useful? Much thanks in advance!
Been using TR for five years, starting from LV plans to HV plans the last couple of winters. It seems that recovery is the low hanging fruit to increase my seemingly plateaued FTP at this point.
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Interested to see how this shows trends rather than just the next day after a workout and also how it compares to the Garmin Body Battery for reference? I’ve been using HRV4TRAINING and it is very inline with the body battery functionality.
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Being a parent of twins, I would say my sleep is…not great, maybe 6-7hrs, broken sleep every night. That would put my recovery into the Red (if I had a WHOOP) I’m not sure I can justify the cost, and ongoing subscription for it to tell me how bad my sleep is. Im used to having broken sleep, when Im really cooked from training/lack of sleep then I will have a day off. Regardless of what my plan says.
Not really how WHOOP works, as far as sleep and recovery, but I don’t think it’s the best value out there and not an ideal tool for everyone.
I love WHOOP and plan to keep paying up to use it for the foreseeable future, but if I wasn’t training at the edge of what I can manage I don’t think it would be worth while.
I’m a new parent to a 4 month old and haven’t had a full night’s sleep since birth. Most nights involve multiple wake ups, going to the toilet briefly and then not getting back to sleep immediately. Some nights even worse. However, I’ve rarely had any red days yet and non at all when I didn’t have hard training sessions in the day (s) prior.
Kudos to you for coping with the twins, it’s hard enough with one!
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Since getting the whoop 3 almost 2 months ago I’ve been accepting but skeptical of the numbers. I’ve only ever ridden with it on the road. The max hr has been occasionally coming in high based on 5 years of numbers from my previous HR chest strap. It’s only occasionally that it spikes 10 beats above my typical max. Not every ride.
I’ve been wearing a garmin hr chest strap for years. It hasn’t given me a max hr over 180 for probably 2 years. I’m 40, probably hovering around 4.25 w/kg and I like to suffer.
Yesterday I arrived in Reno and went mountain biking. First Mtb ride with whoop. The numbers were all over the place.
2 main examples.
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I hit a climb that kicks up to 15% immediately then to 20% and then gradually mellows out over the next 400m. I look down and my unit says my hr is 120… at one point dropping to 98 in the middle of the climb where it’s 12% grade and I’m hammering. You can see in the graph below my hr responds at the beginning of the climb and then miraculously plummets to 93 while the climb is still kicking me in the teeth at 12%. I should be in the 170 bpm’s.
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Headed out, probably 10 minutes into a decent, nose breathing, I look down and my device is telling me my hr is 188. I’ve never hit 188 bpm. The trail was very bumpy and the only thing I could think was that the vibration was causing it to give inaccurate numbers. I stopped at one point and waited… barely breathing, and it stayed in the 180’s. You can see in the graph about 3/4 of the way in my hr spikes while the topography continues to fall. This thing is bogus. And I don’t think I should have to buy an additional accessory like the bicep strap to possibly get a more accurate reading.
Battery was at 85% and the strap is on tight.
Not a big deal but it has an effect on the recovery score, which is the whole point of this thing. It thinks I was anaerobic for 2 miles straight.
In this one it’s easy to see, at the 10 mile mark, where the grey area shows a climb and my hr drops to 90. Not only is the data wrong it’s a distraction while I’m riding. I’ve seen some of these inaccuracies while road riding but not to this extreme.
Thanks for sharing. This is good to know.
I had similar issues with the first Fenix that had optical HR. I love that Whoop offers a biceps band that is supposed to help solve this problem. I’d be interested to hear from anyone if the bicep solution actually works or if it’s just as bad.
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Everyone seems to say the bicep band is good to go, as in much more reliable. After my 6 months I’ll probably go back to a heart rate chest strap.
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On the wrist I was getting very similar graphs as thesupermarket, with sudden dips that possibly came from momentary losses of contact. Since I put it on the bicep I get almost exactly the same returns as my Polar H10 chest strap (I keep them both on), so in my case the bicep readings are extremely accurate.
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Nothing is perfect. I tend to get pretty accurate readings while doing TR workouts, and comparing my Wahoo TICKR HR strap and my Whoop strap on my wrist. Might be +/- 1 bpm, but overall, very close. I haven’t used it a lot mountain biking, but it also tends to do fairly well in cyclocross races. That being said, every BODY is different. I’m pretty fair skinned, nor do not have a lot of arm hair, which are both factors that effect the accuracy. Whoop does a better job, IMO, than other wrist based optical HR sensors because it is always measuring your HR, 24 hours a day, every second of the day.
So I guess if you’re not a fan, and it doesn’t work for you, you can always just cancel your subscription. I didn’t start using Whoop to get around wearing a chest strap. I still wear a chest strap HR monitor for most of my workouts. My main reason for using Whoop is to get a recovery score. Even Hunter Allen (Peaks Coaching Group founder) is not 100% sold on whether the Day Strain metric is totally accurate. But he loves the recovery metrics and the sleep metrics. He encourages all of his coaching clients to use a Whoop strap. I’ve found that the day strain is pretty close. If I do a super hard ride and I am completely destroyed afterwards, it will be in the 18.5-20.5 range. If I do an easy recovery ride, I’m under 10.0. Close enough for my purposes. And the recovery scores match how I feel, and discourages me from riding when I’m in the red. I think I’ve thwarted a few illnesses because I listened to the Whoop strap, when I normally would have ridden despite feeling crummy. The sleep metrics are probably the best in the business.