Near as I can tell, it will move you to the PL of the completed workout. There is potential that your survey rating could impact it, but I have not seen that in my big jump workouts.
Any word on if/when we might start seeing outdoor/indoor unstructured rides being factored into the levels? Most of my riding right now is that way, and might be a good contributor to the beta.
Is there anything I could be doing to make the beta better aside from post ride surveys?
No specific info other than they are working on it and it is a priority.
Not sure on other recommendations for helping. Complete the surveys for any completed rides (be they TR our other stuff) to keep up the history. Report any problems to support@trainerroad.com so they can track them. Other than that, keep an eye on here and/or the podcast to catch new developments.
In the interim, is there anything stopping us retrospectively finding a workout that is similar to our unstructured rides and associating it after the fact to get some progress points?
Nope, it doesn’t work like that, so you won’t gain anything by adding and associating as suggested.
You’re right (obviously) I associated my commute to work to petit and it’s given it a “level” but hasn’t given it a rating or any indication of a progression.
The only way that outside workouts function now is to actually assign as outside and run from a Garmin (Wahoo eventually). The eventual outside integration for “unstructured” rides will simply read the ride and assign appropriate PL’s. It will not likely look for comparison workouts as a base. I don’t see the associations as helpful, but maybe they could be in the future?
Well that explains why I did an 8.4 SST workout and TR has my progression level at like 5. Huh. Curse you Wahoo! 
Wait I’m reading Wahoo outside workouts are ignored… but I did one today and my endurance went from 1.0 to 1.1. ?? What’d I miss?
On that note, why is my endurance starting at 1.0? My threshold and sweet spot were higher. I’m training for long endurance events (just did a biggie this last weekend with 3 stages over 130 miles total and lots of climbing).
Also, it’s recovery week for me now, but my endurance workouts are labeled as stretch… like they’re super easy recovery workouts but they’re a stretch for me to complete? Sort of weird. Loving that I’m in the beta now and can help work this stuff out 
Depends. If you do a TR workout on Garmin it should update progression levels.
I’m did a TR workout on Garmin, on Friday, and it initially gave me a Fail survey. And no progression level updates.
- For reference, what exact workout did you complete?
- I ask because a 0.1 change is quite small, and I suspect it may be more peripheral than direct as if you would have completed one on Garmin. But that is a guess without knowing the Workout Level of the one you completed.
The rating of pending workouts (like Stretch) is related to the individual Workout Level, and your current Progression Level. Since your PL is 1.1, anything around 3.0 or higher? will be Productive, to Stretch, and eventually Breakthrough.
Considering that at present, only TR app workouts and outside ones pushed to and performed from a Garmin are calculated into Progression Levels, you may be “missing” lots of data from your TR PL, like many of us doing non-TR app or non-Garmin outside rides. Meaning your PL’s are likely not accurate at all, if you have lots of stuff outside those 2 specific use cases.
Well I have a Wahoo Elemnt Bolt. No Garmin. I did not get a survey but I’m pretty sure my progression did change today… unless my old man brain is playing tricks on me. I’ll watch tomorrows workout/progression more closely.
TR working to add support for Wahoo. Maybe it’s almost arrived!
Bald Knob. 1 hour, TSS estimated 44. Easy recovery spin down the road and back.
OK, that workout is actually an Endurance 1.1 Workout Level. So, a change from 1.0 to 1.1 after completion actually makes sense. It’s possible that TR is making ground on getting Wahoo outside workouts functioning, or just a coincidence… 
Also, it was labeled as a stretch for me!
I have that turned on in account > tss estimation for past and future, but it still require manual selection under “estimate TSS” as RPE is defaulted.
Good that the estimate is available, but I’d expect it to be populated without user input.
That, and the value is such a light grey it’s hard to read.
This is why people are asking for PL history, and why I’ve been taking screenshots of PL every week… trust in the system isn’t there yet, and we as users want to retain some kind of safety net
@Cleanneon98 Don’t worry about it. Seriously just ignore the progression levels for now. You will likely find - as I did - that the start point is low, and the progression is slow. I am lead to believe (no hard facts) that this is done deliberately to ensure AT doesn’t over cook you out of the gate.
So, for now, review the workout for today and ask yourself “Can I manage this”. Maybe you’ve done something similar recently and know it will be easy/moderate/hard. Chances are initially it will be easy. This is what found. So instead of just doing the workout, I go to “alternatives” in the workout details dialogue and pick one that is harder (higher up in the progression levels) that I am sure I a can still do. In doing this I bought my levels up to reality in about 10 days.
Even then the progression rate was 0.2 which was too low for me, so again now I complete a 2.0 workout, I am recommended a 2.2 but I will choose say a 2.5 (+0.5) in the “alternatives” section.
I am only three weeks in and AT would catch up to your naturally progression rate we can only assume but since I am ending build I didn’t have the luxury of time. This is how I fast tracked it.