2023 XC Bike & Equipment Thread

Pretty interesting in Keegan’s bike check from Downieville it mentions he runs 35-40% sag. One of the comments mentioned this might be to combat pressure rise from heat buildup.

It’s something I’ve been thinking about after feeling like my suspension was beating me up halfway through a 6 hour race a couple weeks ago (100mm Sid/Sidluxe Blur). I normally setup around 20-25%. Time to do some pressure testing…

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Before you toss it, try loosening up your seatpost clamp a touch and retest.
Was just shopping for these, got a Yolk Devine from Jenson for $200 as they have some 20% coupons ( SAVE20 ) out there if you look.

The Transfer SL and the Devine SL are 2-position posts - up or down. They both can be a hassle to lock down occasionally from the looks of it. From there, the next step up in weight are the rest.

The only thing I found with the Devine is that the remote needs 10mm of travel and my Yep joystick only does 8mm. It also shipped with 1/2 the factory air pressure it said it would, so I had to take the seat clamp apart to adjust.

I also bought a cheap used Transx Jumpseat external dropper with integrated lever. It was listed at 670gr, but was only 570gr. Would work OK if you just need to use it every now and then or wanted to switch between a fixed post. It rode stiffer than the Devine and a lot stiffer than the Canyon leaf spring post -even on a FS bike!

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My fox transfer SL works great, but I can’t use the manufacturer recommend seat post torque, had to loosen up some. If it’s too tight, won’t return up.

I just use carbon paste and lighten the torque until It works reliably, haven’t had it slip and check every ride.

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The Divine SL is not 2 position, it’s infinitely adjustable. I believe only the Fox Transfer SL if 2 pos.

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Don’t tell me that! I just bought a Divine STD thinking that. Now I’m caring around 15gr extra :slight_smile:

Realized today the std Divine also have the micro suspension ’feature’ when not topped out.

I gotta say… droppers aren’t fully baked yet. The cable sizing/adjustment is garbage, the resistance is garbage, wireless functions are stupid, and the weight is too damn high. These are going to see a revolution soon.

Sorry to also mention…but the Divine SL has that as well. :grimacing:

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I have had 2 Fox Transfers. They work ok but sometime stick in the down position. The best dropper I have had is the AXS Reverb but it must be due for an upgrade to make it lighter.

Agreed here - I loved my AXS Reverb but the weight is definitely a challenge. Also, it would be really nice if they were to enable the wireless blips with them for more options for controlling that didn’t require a blip box.

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Interesting thought, I need to get my Fox SC32 serviced as it feels like it is rock hard after 3 hours of riding. I pushed the rubber o ring down 2:24 into a 3:45 race and I was only getting 50% travel. The next day it was as plush as ever…

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I saw that prior. The std one doesn’t market it, but it’s there. The PWN Coast (40mm of bounce) and the AXS XPLR dropper have this too.

Bike Yolk does a terrible job differentiating their droppers.
For a 125mm 30.9:
Divine (shortest post for model): $300 445gr 365mm long 167-285mm exposed (42mm stack) auto-purge ~5mm of mid-stroke bounce
Divine SL (largest post for model) : $350 430gr 375mm long 215-365mm exposed (90mm stack). auto-purge ~5mm of mid-stroke bounce
Revive (shortest post for model; older design): $350 455gr 365mm long 167-285mm exposed (42mm stack) button-purge ~0mm of mid-stroke bounce better internal design/smoother

Never had an issue with the AXS reverb (unlike all my squishy mechanical reverbs), so I’m OK with the extra weight. Bonus feature - I always have an emergency AXS battery on the bike for the RD if I have an issue. My understanding is that SRAM gave up on making the dropper work with the wireless blips, they couldn’t get reasonable battery life out of them.

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Interesting, and does make sense. If they could make the blips work with a replaceable battery it would be amazing.

I’ve just ordered some Blips from Leap Components as they are nearly half the price to buy in US/Europe compared to here, plus I had a 20% off code.

I hate the wasteful nature of them, but the comments earlier in this thread about getting many years out of them made it intriguing enough to try as a race day option on my weight weenie days.

I had never heard of this mid stroke bounce, and it didn’t show in cursory google. Care to share some info/a source for this? It’s interesting to me.

Thats the “tech climb” / “micro suspension” ahhh… “feature”. The post doesn’t lock in place mid-stoke, it has 5mm of movement up/down as the seals(?) compress. Topped out, the manual says it’ll flex 1-2mm down also. It’s noticeable, but not something like the PNW Coast, which as a purposeful 40mm of travel.

One of the features is the “Tech-Climb” feature. While our DIVINE SL is completely locked in place in the top-out and bottom-out position for consistent riding position, the post can offer some amount of movement in the middle positions. We´ve found out, that extremely steep and technical (e.g. rooty or rocky) uphill sections can be conquered with much more ease when the saddle is just slightly dropped (let’s say about 1-2cm). Having the saddle dropped just a bit (and not completely), the “Tech-Climb” feature" also adds some suspension to the post, filtering the impacts of roots and rocks. Back fully extended or fully dropped, the post is rigid once again.

So simple, but somehow not intuitive. Took me a while to figure it out. Was thinking it was something like “Race Spec”.

Build is finally coming together.

Still waiting on a replacement end cap from Onyx (hopefully that fixes my binding front hub!!), and a 34T chainring to arrive.

I have also picked up a 32T, which I’m tempted to try as I’ve been reading about people liking the increased anti squat from the smaller chainring, but I’m loathe to install it first as I’ve currently only got the one chain and I don’t want to go to the shorter length and not have the option of running the 34T.

It’s weighing in at 11.2kg which is not too bad, but a smidge more than I was aiming for. I could easily drop below the 11.00kg mark with a few extra dollars if I need. I’m also going to put a 70mm stem on before I ride it, I really wanted the 60mm to work but it’s just too short.

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I have a fully functional wheelset. Someone said earlier about Onyx having great customer support and I have to wholeheartedly agree. Taken a few months between back and forth and waiting on postage but a new end cap on the front hub and she spins beautifully.

Having actually been able to roll the bike down the driveway, I may yet be able to use the 60mm stem. The 70 would give me the benefit of a few mm stack which would mean no risk of levers or shifter hitting the top tube. The bike does look good with the short stem and whilst I have sized down it is designed around a shorter stem.

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The bike looks great. Love the matching PNW blue and Fox decals.

I’m running 32T on my XC bike for the anti squat and also for a better chainline: it lets me avoid first gear more often on steep terrain and in general puts me closer to the middle of the cassette when I’m putting down the most power.

I did swap to the e13 9-46 cassette for a race that included a lot of fast gravel descents that I wanted to be able to pedal on. Might have missed the top end a bit if my hardest gear was 32:10. But for normal XC racing I’m never in my hardest gear and don’t wish for a larger chainring at all.

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More antisquat, more kickback and therefore more rolling resistance.

Larger chainring, less anti squat, more supple suspension, less rolling resistance, better gearing and, bonus, less drivetrain resistance.

This is an XC bike thread, I know which choice I made (and I also had the shock tuned lighter).

Considering a 36-38 next season =].

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Interesting: clearly there are more variables that I hadn’t considered. Good to point out the pros and cons.

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