Gorgeous bike!

Truth!
Some commodities like steel and lumber will drop back down to reasonable prices at some point, but Iām not holding my breath that theyāll ever return to prepandemic prices.
I think bike prices will stay the way they are. Manufacturers arenāt overproducing and the price hikes werenāt insane (unlike lumber), so I think current prices will be the new normal.
Any watch nerds out there? Gray market Rolex Daytonas are going for 3X over retail. People have money to spendā¦
Not trying to bash bicycle manufacturers, retailer or anybody else in the chain but I canāt honestly see that prices will drop. Not to levels that weād expect anyway.
If manufacturers have been able to provide some product to the market, theyāll have data to show that thereās demand for their product, even at increased cost. There would need to be solid data to the contrary showing their product stagnated.
Could be partly fuelled by the fact that āSaversā are getting nothing back for their money in a bank and theyāre just saying āsod it! Iām going to have some fun with my moneyā. On the other hand, people globally have been losing their jobs and their homes.
During the financial crisis of 2008-2010, UK VAT was increased from 17.5% to 20%. We were told that it would return to 17.5% once the ship had steadied. Weāre still waitingā¦
Guys, bike prices have been climbing steadily every year since forever.
Me. I own an early 90ās Tudorā¦the vintage market has also been insane.
Anyone know a custom frame builder? Parts availability or lack thereof has to be especially hard on them. How are they doing otherwise?
Sure, but theyāre getting to the point where theyāre unreasonable. Unless youāre making well north of $100,000 per year.
My guess is the current prices are being sustained on credit and trump bucks.
Important to factor in inflation and not just get mad about prices going up over time
Well exactly , so the $5,000 bike should be $5,500 today, but itās $6,300 today in reality and could have been had on sale previously.
So the real world price increase is SIGNIFICANTLY greater than inflation and wage growth.
Prices go up over time regardless of inflation. To think ___ should cost the same as it did 5 years seems misguided
Thereās no sales now because there are more dollars than products, why discount something when a line of people are eager to throw money at it
Not really. Lots of products are similarly priced as to what they were five years ago or perhaps in-line with inflation.
Maybe you just like getting ripped off? Dunno lol.
Personally, I donāt see what additional value weāre getting to account for the prices out pacing inflation. Bikes are continuing to get specced with worse and worse components in a given price bracket every single year. To me, a $3,000-5,000 bike coming with SX/NX, components is unacceptable.
You think? Were people actually negotiating the price of a new bike pre-pandemic? I didnāt see that many bike sales unless it was old stock, but that obviously isnāt happening now.
Definitely, it used to be easy to walk into a shop and get 10-20% off MSRP on a new bike. It looks like I managed just under 17% off on my last new bike purchase in 2018.
Iām also pretty sure that the 2016 top fuel 9.8 XT didnāt have carbon wheels as standard like the 2021 does, or a dropper post. I agree if you look at prices for bikes NOW they have certainly outpaced inflation, I disagree that itās completely unwarranted. Would I like it if prices were lower? Of course, but Iām trying to look at things as objectively as possible.
Personally speaking, my 2021 FUEL EX (recycling some parts from my previous 2018) is a way better bike than my old 2015 was, from both a frame set and component point of view.
The 2021 Supercal doesnāt come with a dropper either and yes it has carbon wheels, but theyāre really not that nice. So I donāt consider that as an upgrade over a decent set of aluminum hoops.
As for the Fuel Ex, itās a totally different bike now. The pre-2017 models compares more directly with the current Top Fuel.
didnāt Biden also give out lots of bucks?
Not sure why weāre comparing a Top Fuel to a Supercaliber. My FUEL EX is more comparable to an old Remedy but Iām not drawing that comparison because all bikes have morphed geometries in the last 5 years
He did, but a bit less and they were the bucks first promised by Trump. However, Iāve been calling them Trump bucks since the first stimmy check.
The prior-gen Top Fuel and the current Supercal are both Treks XC race bikes. The current Top Fuel fills the spot of the old Fuel Ex in their lineup.
Well I guess the ābuckā stops with⦠whichever guy you didnāt vote for. lol.
Carry on.
I didnāt vote for either of them lol. I just like how Trump bucks sounds. They both gave them out, so itās not derogatory towards either party.