How is that? My legs can’t tell the difference. Maybe one could argue trainer miles are more difficult.
I personally like to count my trainer miles towards my annual mileage.
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As i said before, i find the concept of stationary millage silly, that on a thread mill or bike trainers. But if you are using the numbers, just be aware the limitations.
Iike for example, i was using a different trainer last year. I was on the big chainring in front. That would give me some massive millage readings and speed. Now i am basically doing the same workouts and my millage has gone down because of the trainer and chainring selection.
I would be fine with 0, 100, 23, or 41. Or anything else.
I don’t look at distance or speed… Just power i made on Rachel section. That was the Wo goal …
same for me, because it is more then realistic here!
i used this calculator for my chainrings and wheel size entered in TR, on all gears i have the correct distance:
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There is no perfect solution. Personally, I do count the miles towards my annual mileage, because it’s still wear and tear on bearings, frame, components, and me. Strava has privacy options that allow you to mark the whole ride private, or hide the speed. Just click on the pencil and choose your options.
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To be brutally honest with you the mileage readings from my trainer are actually pretty consistent unlike real life. My kickr seems to give me about 17 mph averages for 200 watts.
I mean sometimes I’ll average 250 watts outdoors and only average 10 mph and other times I’ll do a century at over 20mph and 175 watts.
So I think saying trainer speed doesn’t match outdoor speed is kind of a false statement.
Outdoor speed literally doesn’t match outdoor speed day over day.
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This is physically imposible
Your speed in the indoor trainer is literally 0.
You moved 0 miles in x amount of time.
Now, you are talking about the wheel spin and how one could calculate something that sounds like speed on rotation of known size wheel.
Also
Another physical imposible thing. When you ride outside you actually cover a distance… And depending how you measure your time then that distance divided by the time will give you a speed… So it is what it is…
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But if you change gears, that same 200 watts will give you significantly higher mileage.
That said, I count my indoor “mileage” simply because it is the most common denominator for referencing your training time. But I also have use TR and Zwift concurrently, but Zwift records my mileage. Since I usually have some hills in my route selections, my indoor “mileage” is usually comparable to what I would do outside…~20mph.
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Like myself, it’s less an issue for you because you use zwift. I laugh every time I see this topic come back up with all the TR users having issues with it. When the answer is simple. Either calculate the distance/speed using physics on a velodrome or don’t record the speed/distance in the fit file.
But I am enjoying my 
reading these threads. Keep it up everyone 
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Yeah, I suggested something similar awhile ago…just calculate the power required on a flat TT course and use that general number. Sure, it won’t reflect individual aerodynamics, etc. but it would be semi-realistic and unrelated to flywheel speed.
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Its not to me, but I wont judge you for counting it. I use strava to track how far I moved outside in a given year/month, etc. I dont care what it looks like on trainer road. I hate that January is going to look like my biggest month in years. I just went out for a muddy outdoor ride in freezing ride that was brutal and grand total of 20 miles. I don’t like that my strava is showing that im doing about 40 miles a day when I simply am not.
At the very least, I dont care how you track your data, so you shouldn’t be concerned with how I track mine.
meh. although getting distance more accurate would be nice, i don’t see it as a huge issue - i guess it just makes up for not coasting on the downhills. all averages out more or less.
So after all these comments you have not even put it on the list of jobs to address? Come on TR. Pull yourself out of the AT rabbit hole for once in a while and look at some of the issues that mean things to people.
FWIW I dual record, because of this problem with TR, as I (and this is my personal view) can’t possibly count any milage indoors as I haven’t actually ridden anywhere. Occasionally during a big sprint I might move a mm or 2 forwards.
Power. HR, cadence and time are the only useful metrics that I record. Speed and distance are meaningless as it all depends on what gear you are in. That alone negates any argument about counting indoor rides towards annual milage.
Edit: I don’t know why I get upset about this really…I’ve found my own solution and it works for me. Everyone is entitled to record whatever data they want in whatever fashion they want. I just wish TR would help users facilitate that choice.
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Somewhere in the thread there is a response on how to send 0 speed to tr.
I just ignore the speed since I know it’s not important.
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A few years ago before I started with TR I’d create workouts in Garmin workout creator (or whatever it’s called) and upload them to my unit and then ride them while recording on the Garmin head unit.
Getting 100 metre elevation gain when on the trainer is quite disturbing! And no, I wasn’t on a ship.
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Setting wheel size to 0 (zero) has worked for some users (to get no speed/distanc). I think it varies with trainer type, but don’t know for certain.
Unless they are using the setting where the kickr estimates the speed via power (rather than flywheel speed) - I find the speed/distance reported to be pretty reasonable using that.
- That’s not how I read her comment at all.
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I see this as that there is no progress to report. It does NOT mean that they don’t have it on the “wish list”, based upon my reading.
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Considering that it was acknowledged by Bryce in the very first reply to this post in May 2020, I think it is already on that list.
- Then consider what Nate discussed and offered in his post. I think TR is well aware of the request (with it on the list, along with hundreds or thousands of others) and has it prioritized in their system.
But not everybody has a Kickr.