I’m late to the party here but just for the record;
I have a kickr v1 and powertap P1 pedals
I did have the most recent firmware but hadn’t done the advanced spin down. I’ve just done that and set the kickr to use the flywheel power calculation and then done a free ride 30 to check power levels. The kickr and pedals are now really close to each other where previously they were 5-10% different (kickr higher than pedals). I am not using power match on TR and am doing 3 second smoothing on TR and 5 second smoothing on my wahoo computer that I’m using to read the power from my pedals.
So overall I’d recommend it but not looking forward to the over unders tomorrow
Stu
It constantly updates.
Thanks
Is it confirmed this setting persists in other apps outside the wahoo one?
“Control with ANT+” setting is persistent for me, and Wahoo support confirmed the same.
However sometimes when turning on my equipment, the Kickr fails to connect with ANT+ and the only way to see that is by using Wahoo app on my phone. Wahoo support also confirmed that can be an issue.
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I want to make sure I’m understanding the ideal mix of settings for this.
Last winter I used only my Snap and TrainerRoad, and my graphs were smooth and perfect. From reading more into this it appears the Snap is doing a lot of power smoothing and the graph may not have reflected reality.
This winter I’ll be using a Quarq and Powermatch. On my first ride with these settings today, my output was pretty wild, like an outdoor workout. This may be what I should expect, as other posts by users have indicated, but I was surprised at just how jumpy it was.
In the Wahoo app settings for the trainer, I turned off smoothing. Do I want the setting for “control w/ANT+ power meter” on or off… or is it irrelevant to TrainerRoad?
This is somewhat like the graphs I produce on my Quarq/Drivo/Powermatch. I suspect the Drivo holds watts better than a Snap (because it is direct drive), but nonetheless, focus on the overall segment stats and it probably all comes out in the wash.
I had i mpression that I have to run Wahoo Fitness app each time to enable this function in kickr. It was working much better (reacting quicker) than power match in TR, but it was unreliarable, so recently I started using PM in TR, at least till Wahoo changes something in their app.
I posted a little lengthy description in this thread about Ant+ power. It’s working for me
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I don’t believe that is required.
“Erg mode speed simulation” definitely requires using the Wahoo app before TR app, if you want the Kickr to use power-based estimates for speed.
Does having the “control with ANT+” enabled impact TR PowerMatch in any way? I assume that the control with ANT+ works with other well known cycling / trainer appZ?
The reason I ask is that currently I use PowerMatch only, and in that other application I see my Kickr and my power meter as devices, but I’m not certain how to confirm that the software is using my power meter to control the trainer.
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Having gone through the tread my take out it that my Kickr has given me a somewhat flattering FTP. I also have Vector 2s peddles that I use on outdoor rides. this would also help explain why Garmin keeps detecting a lower FTP vs what I have tested at, or is that opening a whole new can of worms 
When I first started training with power, my coach at the time told me that the number is less important, as long as it is consistent over time. so is the Kickr consistent? by using it at a set target am i getting the benefit and getting stronger? are the FTP gains ‘real’?
I guess there are some real world differences that need to be accounted for when racing, such as can I really hold 260w for an hour or should it be closer to 240…
I’ve tried running both with starting Wahoo Fitness app and without starting it before I start TR. If I didn’t start Wahoo Fitness App I had difference more then 10% between what I saw in TR and what I saw on Bolt connected directly to power meter via ant+. I’ve written to wahoo to confirm if I have to run Wahoo Fitness App and they onlu confirmed that this function works in Wahoo Fitness App and if I’m using TR they advise PM in TR.
I’ve also noticed that kickr ant+ led is not blinking, so I’m not sure if it’s communicating with power meter, does it blink in your case?
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Even using the Wahoo Fitness app with Control w/ANT+ setting, I’ve seen a difference between power recorded in Wahoo Fitness app and power recorded on bike computer. I’m not convinced it works properly. Given Wahoo the benefit of doubt, if it does work it is not reliable.
For that reason I gave up and went back to using TR’s PowerMatch which has basically been flawless over 9 months except for one minor glitch in a workout.
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Looks like we’ve came to the same conclussions. In my opinion PM is also not perfect, but at least TR is recording actual readings from power meter, so even if PM is not working 100% right I’m aware of that and it’s reflected in my training recording.
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Absolutely.
Well I have to pretty much retract everything I said about Wahoo Ant+ power working because I tested it again today and it was clearly not working. I have a single sided Pioneer power meter and with Ant+ power ON my Kickr Core still records power even when I pedal with only my right leg clipped in. So my Garmin reads “zero” as it should but the Kickr in the TR app was reading watts as if I was pedaling with both feet. That makes it definitive Wahoo Ant+ power does not work. It’s hard not to be frustrated because I used TR power match today and I really didn’t like it. There are times I’m 20 watts under my target for what feels like minutes at a time. I ended up switching to resistance mode but that makes it harder to ride different cadences. I’m going to use power match tomorrow and just try to get used to it.
Wahoo “control w/ANT+” is not ready for prime time in my testing.
If you haven’t already, try TR PM using little chainring. Or use a small burst of power/acceleration to break out of the “20 watts under” jail. Those don’t happen too often, but they do happen.
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Thanks I’ll give that a try. I’m not giving up. Need to make this work!
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