Midwest Events for *2023*

It shares some of the same course as the Heywood Ride, which happens in May. May have parts of the old Almanzo too (never did it). My guess is it should be a great ride. I love that area. It’s awesome (went to college there). It’s super scenic and you’ll be at the peak of fall colors. That area has some nice sweeping descents and some decent climbs. Should be a lot of fun. Think of it as a gravel race through a Grant Wood painting. As long as the weather’s comfortable for you, should be a great time.

I’ve kept my eye on the GDR for a couple years, but wasn’t too interested when they just had 111, 222 and 333. Glad to see them making it a little bit more accessible.

I’m going down to Lanesboro next week for the Filthy 50. Anyone else going?

My 10 y.o., my wife, and I(hopefully) will be riding the 25 this year. My kiddo is super excited to ride his first solo gravel ‘race’!

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There’s a special place in Heaven for people who attempt rides like this (of any distance) with small(er) kids. If I tried to force my 12 and 14yo to do it with me, there would be no end to the B$#23ing and moaning I would be forced to endure. Hope the three of you have an awesome time!

#tipofthecap

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Sometimes it is better for a non-parent to do the pushing. I think it is natural for kids to give their parents more grief. Find a club or a team for them. I’m involved with a local youth MTB team, you’d be amazed at what kids can do. Our team has 7 kids riding the Iceman Cometh Challenge this year.

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This is awesome🤘

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Looks like a great day to start a 333 Mile or 222 Mile gravel race in Southeastern Minnesota.

Happy Gray Duck Grit II Long distance riders!

Even so it’s going to be 15f / 6c warmer than last year. Starting temps at 48f/8.8c vs 39f/3.8c and lows predicted to be 39f/3.8c vs 26f/-3.3c

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@webdev511 @kstiegler – want to hear your GDG race report. I’ve got it on my list for next year.

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What’s the app you’re using here? Like the UX visuals.

That’s the MSN/Microsoft Weather app. It’s MSFT’s UI that uses the Foreca back end because why would you completely re-engineer a weather back end? Windows/Android/iOS app. Web UI isn’t quite as good due to ads.

Most weather apps are terrible. The data may be great but the UX/UI info designs are so bad.

I’m still wondering if Apple will resurrect the magic that was Dark Sky – or if it’s gone forever.

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The pictures on the website definitely made it look cold last year, so I’m happy to see highs in the 50s for Saturday afternoon! I’m also hoping that the rain rolling through the metro this morning doesn’t dampen the course TOO much, for all racers’ benefit!

I’ll be on 40c Tufo Thundero tires for the 69-mile race. My closest frame of reference for the course is the 60-mile Hungry Bear in Cable, WI. That was a fast race, just over 3 hours, with ~8 miles paved, 52 miles gravel/unpaved, and endless rolling hills in the Chequamegon forest area of WI. Scoping out the GDG course, it looks generally like the hills are less constantly rolling and more long and gradual, though I did note a few very big and sharp climbs. RideWithGPS shows some pavement on the 69-mile course (though I know RWGPS isn’t always correct), so I’m planning for a ~4-hour ride but bringing some supplies for contingencies.

I definitely prefer cooler temps to the warmth of summer racing, so it should be a great day!

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should be enough rain to pack down the dust and make it more tacky, but not so much that you get that crushed rock/limestone sludge. :pinched_fingers:t2:

What?!? :scream::scream::scream:. That was the worst weather app ever….at least as far as accuracy. Alway gave my best riding buddy crap whenever he would tell me what DS said the temps would be. :crazy_face:

Gray Duck Grit 222 Ride Report
Summary: Legs are fine, stomach is not.

I managed the first 56 miles (again) and DNF’d as I had that clenching throat, not quite gonna hurl, but if you keep this up you’re gonna, feeling. Gearing could have been better as an 11-34 on a GRX 2x wasn’t enough to keep me spinning in more places than I’d like.
Moonrise was cool again. Didn’t get rained on and wasn’t cold until I stopped at aid 1 with the idea of putting on some chamois butter, having something solid to eat and swapping out my windvest for my shake dry for just a little bit more warmth.
The stop might have been a mistake as I was still generating heat while riding, not warm, but not shivvering cold either. When I stopped I got cold pretty fast and DID start shivering. (booooo!)
I think that high carb drink mixes are just not working for me. I’ve had a sour stomach three times when going over 10g of carbs per 100ml in a bottle. Not a great thing to have happen.

Unless I can figure out a good fueling plan (less grams of carbs per hour?) I’m really going to have to reconsider if I can accomplish what I want in ultra endurance cycling. Ugh. Not a happy camper.

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Bummer! We never know what our bodies can handle until we push them, that’s for sure. What did your fueling look like during training? Were you able to do 3-4 hour rides with your target race carbs/hr?

One thing that can throw you off for long hard shoulder season races like this you may not be used to how much less fluid you will handle due to lower sweat rates vs hot summer. I found there were times during the heat I would do 90g carb / 26oz bottle per hour, but then in cooler temps can only handle 90g/22oz. Some people might even do less.

I had this problem, then I switched out my hydration strategy a couple years ago and haven’t looked back.

I don’t put carbs in my bottle anymore. I only use Precision Hydration tabs, and the dose varies based on the temperature. I take all my carbs through gels … I use SiS.

I’m sure there is a complex reason why this worked for me, but keeping my bottles for hydration only, and gels for nutrition … I like SiS because you don’t need extra water to digest them.

Good luck🤘

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Yep I already split out hydration and fueling. I’ve been using Garmin Smart Drink and the Saturday Morning sodium guidelines to get hydration dialed in. I have been bringing ONE bottle with Maurten/Never2nd in it for those times when and eat & drink pop up at the same time.

Problem with last night is I got behind. I did NOT try to “catch up” because that’s just not something you can do, but I did knock out a 90g bottle of carbs (Never2nd) in about three different squeezes.

When I got to Aid one at 56 miles I was feeling a little behind and a tad chilled, then my throat tightened up and my stomach said “nope”. I thought maybe I could wait it out, but that wasn’t a good idea as it let my body temp chill as I wasn’t generating heat anymore, so here come the shivers. Between the two of those and riding with my head hung low and not looking ahead enough I knew continuing wasn’t going to be a good idea.

Pulling my bike out of the car this afternoon I realized that it was about 10lbs heavier than regular race weight. Heavier than it was for Unbound too. Pushing the extra weight probably wasn’t helping anything. I had more stuff, because I had no crew, which made me feel obligated to just carry it all along, which was just dumb.

As a song I enjoy says “Failure isn’t about falling down, failure is staying down.” so learn from the vast list of mistakes, and do what I can to not repeat them.

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You’ll be back better, stronger and smarter in no time :muscle:

Sorry for your bad day … they suck.

Keep at it and good luck🤘

#midwest

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Gray Duck Grit 69 mile race report: Best of the rest

Air temp was about 50 F at the start, 8-10mph wind, partly sunny, conditions which certainly suit me as I like it colder. The course was mostly Category 2 & 3 gravel with some short connecting stretches of pavement. With the rain on Friday, dust was low and the course was pretty fast. I rode a 2015 Stigmata with 40c Tufo Thunderos at 30/32 psi and a 40t oval with 11-40 cassette. There were 1 or 2 hills where I could have used lower than a 1:1 gearing.

After a 2 mile neutral rollout, a young kid with aerobars attacked immediately and proceeded to annihilate the field by 30 minutes. Found out later he’s an 18 year old Cat 1 racer, so he was clearly the strongest by a ridiculous margin.

For the rest of us, a group of maybe 20 formed of those who briefly considered chasing the kid and then decided better of it. The pace slowly whittled that group down to 5 by the first large climb at mile 18. One rider couldn’t hang on the top and then there were 4. Even before the aid station at 38, there were some tactical games being played, which surprised me since the 2nd half of the race was going to include lots of headwind stretches, but we ended up staying together until the aid at 38. 3 of us stopped, and I got a mini Coke that was absolute rocket fuel for the next hour. The 4th rider rolled through the aid and said we’d catch up to him. We did, but it took 30 minutes or so. We caught him going up one of the 4 big climbs on course and proceeded to drop a different rider. The 3 of us in front rotated cohesively enough and the 4th rider dangled just a few seconds back until he couldn’t anymore at about mile 48.

The 3 of us continued to rotate and based on the strength of the pulls, it seemed likely I was the strongest of the 3 left. We rotated smoothly from mile 48 all the way until about 66. At that point, I realized there weren’t many selective sections left and I put in a hard effort on one of the last gravel hills. I had about a 20-30 second gap at the top and I just stayed on the gas for the last 2 paved miles to take home 2nd place! It ended up being a race of attrition rather than tactics and I was fortunate enough to be the 2nd strongest.

Mechanically, it was a successful race for me. I had a 22oz bottle with 10 scoops of Flow Formula Gel mix, another 22oz with 2 scoops of Skratch, and just water in my USWE pack. I used it all, so close to 120g carbs/hr, plus some pickle juice and the aforementioned Coke. I normalized 259w, averaged 223w, averaged 18.5 mph for 69 miles, and finished in 3:42 or so. It’s definitely a smaller race, being newer, maybe 70-80 people in the 69 mile distance, but it was a fun course with some fast, flowy sections. I would certainly recommend it for anyone considering it next year!

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I rode with you in that final group of 3 and concur with your race report completely. You were the strongest in our group and deserved 2nd place. That last two miles hurt a lot as we all just had to go all out to the finish. I only got in 81g carbs/hr and was a little under-fueled. The wind really took it’s toll, on me at least. It made the riding more mentally draining. The event was cool though and I can totally see this becoming bigger in the future. Any gravel race that has actual timing is great in my book. And they made cool trophies, had aid stations with fires for the people riding overnight in the long distances. I’d recommend the GDG for people looking for events for next year.

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