It’s not clear from that ad that it was her actual bike. I bet that guy thought he had something, now he just has a bike with a suspect heritage.
I always felt sorry for those guys that went all in on the Lance era Treks in full Livestrong livery. I see people trying to sell those for big money and just laugh.
Yes, right. I admit I do admire UCI. They have actually tried to do something, but it clearly doesn’t work and everyone knows it. I’d bet the majority of pro cyclists if polled anonymously would vote to put an asterisk next to pogacar’s tdf win because the common thought is that you can’t win like that without doping. So let’s stop the charade and drop all of the pretense and just allow it already
BTW for the record I don’t believe pogecar doped to win anything. I’d believe more if you suspected froome or Wiggins (mr. unbelievable performance of a lifetime and then peace out/smoke cigarettes on the back of a motorcycle for the rest of your days)
Why laugh? The AAA tech is still there
I laugh because these people think they are worth big money but nobody buys them and they just sit on ebay forever.
AAA tech? I don’t know anyone who wants a Trek from 20 years ago over what you can buy now.
Which Wiggins performance are you referring to?
Not saying he was clean or not (I hope he was), but he was pretty consistently one of the world’s very best cyclists in his preferred disciplines. Plus he had off days/couldn’t be world’s best at everything at the same time which is one of my smell tests (not fool proof by any means, but helps me assess things).
Yes a great point. Have to factor in the heavy price of depreciation
Tdf 2012. Most of his glory came from that one specific year as I recall. Olympics, Paris nice, etc. Maybe I’m misremembering
He won Gold at the Olympics I think four times in a row. He certainly didn’t garner most of his success in 2012. Just his TdF/TT success over that span.
Usually ‘proprietary blend’ or similar
Yes. Exactly.
Interesting read The Comptons' God-Awful Response to Katie's Positive is Everything You Need to Know About This Case - Cyclocosm
Not even her bike…seller confirmed it is just the stock Stevens KFC-replica bike that they did following her Nats win.
$8k for a replica chock full of old-tech. LOL….good luck, buddy.
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Fascinating stuff. Maybe zero threshold in sport is not the way to go. Maybe there should be more slaps on the wrist for a few metabolites of a substance rather than zero tolerance and an automatic 4 year penalty. The multi-millionaire athletes than can go to battle with a team of lawyers and experts seem to get off more often than not or get a reduced penalty during the offseason.
Or we could just all admit/accept the fact that there is cheating/corruption of various form across the elite tier in all(?) commercial ventures/systems.
Ditch the “war on drugs”. Open it up and enjoy the spectacle of the lab rat circus.
Or go for the middle ground and give more warnings for minor infractions? Maybe 1-2 minor infractions results in increased testing, and 3 gets you a ban.
If you open it up, it becomes a drugs arms race. Who can then afford not to roid up and lift weights all winter? You’ll have juniors doing that.
I hear/read the “just deregulate pro sports so that all athletes can take whatever substances they want” argument somewhat often…
Thinking about that makes me realize that I would then have 0 interest in viewing/following/being passionate about such a league/sporting organization’s competitions.
What percentage of the field is acceptable for you to still be excited and engaged, and what percentage do you think is out there now?
That would be my worry too. Your 12 year old like riding bikes and is showing a bit of potential? Sign them up for local juniors coaching, and first thing they’ll be put on drugs to build muscle…
It would depend on the particular sport/level.
I have no actual factual basis, so just taking a gut-read on it, perhaps 25-33% of current UCI World Tour riders are on something?
If it was deregulated fully, I’d imagine that a vast majority to basically 100% of riders would take something, which is a definite tipping point for me.
edit - What’s your take?
I don’t know, but I’m not that passionate and I’m already cynical - I’m already in a place where I expect that the majority of athletes are cheating. I have no reason to believe it’s a minority.
I still enjoy watching, and I’m neither surprised nor really disappointed when clear cheating is uncovered. It’s their careers and livelihoods, but to me it’s a bit of fun to watch.
I am more concerned with the effects on the health of the athlete community, in particular child athletes being groomed for success and pushed to dope.