Handlebars also make a huge difference in the distance to the shifters. Some compact bars have a 70mm reach while others may have a 90mm reach. It’s quite a large difference.
I just think it will be difficult, even for an experienced rider, to bang on nail a perfect fit by mail order with an integrated cockpit. Maybe you could come close if you know your exact measurements and then could model them in software. I’ve done this and still needed little tweaks afterwards.
Don’t get me wrong - I think integrated bars look cool!
Yes this is the problem, coupled with the inability to get some information locally. I’ve abandoned the idea of a Canyon and am looking for something without integration. I found that the online inventory is not accurate and I made a day trip to test ride a Tarmac and TCR. I didn’t like the builds, but both bikes fit really well. I also discovered that I’m not a huge fan of wireless shifting. I’m not too stressed about finding the correct size now. Hopefully I can find something in a reasonable amount of time.
It’s hard to believe someone like Canyon hasn’t created an app for this. The would save them some money on returns. I moved away from the idea of integrated cables.
have a google search for a Retul fit and see if anyone in a distance youre willing to drive can get you measured. They can set up their jig to match the measurements of the Canyon and see how it fits you or what youll need to adjust. In the past, Canyon did offer bar/stem swaps for free at the time of ordering. Ive also heard people getting the crash replacement price for a different one so not entirely sure what their policy is anymore. Most people online say their fit calculator is pretty spot on. I actually sized up at the recommendation of my fitter for my Aeroad and Im happy I did. If I were on an ultimate (or really any non-aero bike) id probably have gone with the size down and a longer stem if needed.