Hi,
In the “Compare geometries” tab. I would put in your chosen frame. Then under the picture, you can put in your saddle height, stem, etcetera. Under “Handlebar Rise” you could put in the height of the hoverbar.
Then you get something like this:
I went with 10cm of rise, which is obviously too much, but you get the idea. This should get the height and distance from the saddle or bottom bracket to the hoods correct.
Thanks. Thats one thing i have not tried.
Edit. Correction, putting in the reach+ and stack+ from canyon, then putting stem lenght to 0, headset stack to 0, stem angle 0, handelbar reach 70mm, drop 130, width 420 and then reduce that handlebar reach from Saddle to handlebar horizontal figure it got close to what ive measured to center of handlebar. Geo pic looks funny af tho
Didnt work either. Mine is a size S, stock leafspring seatpost with 13mm setback. Ive measured horizontal (center of seatpost)saddle to center of handlebar to be aprox670mm at 735mm saddleheight(from bb). All i can get out of bikestats is something like 740-790mm for horizontal saddle to handlebar🤷🏽♂️
Edit. Handlebar rise is about 55mm on this bar. 75mm stem, 420width and 70mm reach, doesnt say stem angle anywhere?
Did you measure from the center of the seatpost to the center of the handlebars on your bike?
The measurement that bikestats.de gives is to the position of the hoods and not to the center of the bar:
So for your case, center of saddle to center of handlebar is 670mm (measured). Then add 70mm of reach in the handlebar. Then you get 670+70=740mm, which would be the distance that bikestats gives you 
You could also go measure on your bike, the horizontal distance from the saddle to the start of the hoods to double check.
All good now. I even doubblechecked with lazer. It just put me off that changing handlebar reach value to 0 did nothing to that saddle to handlebar number.
Hi crew. I converted my hardtail into a dropbar MTB and am now dialing in my fit. I‘d like to further drop my bars but am constrained to a 50mm stem due to long legs and short torso proportions.
I see three viable options to get the saddle to bar drop I‘m after:
shorter cranks: moving to 165mm cranks would raise my saddle 10mm and increase saddle to bar drop by the same amount. Problem is I‘m already maxed out at the seatpost.
negative stemangle: hard to find one with 50mm reach. I have long legs and short torso and can’t run a longer stem because the bike gets too long otherwise unfortunately.
shorter Airshaft: I could drop my 32 SC to 80mm travel. Assuming I leave 25% sag constant I‘d drop my frontend by 15mm. I‘d additionally steepen the seatpost and steering angle and marginally lower the bb.
I‘m most interested in this third option as I assume with a steeper headangle I‘d reduce the trail(?), which would quicken up the steering (I assume?). What other implications are there with a lower front end in terms of handling? Are there any downsides at all (apart from cost?).
Syntace Flat Force might be a stem option for you:
I have one of those on my fatbike, I actually feel like the crazy negative angle effectively makes it even shorter than advertised.
Go for that airshaft option(and stem), my bike came in at 74SA and 72HA, and i think it rides great.
