First V02 max workout since the first week in October, with major injury recovery in the first 6 weeks of the year.
Original 1.0 workout changed to Bird, PL 5.5 (4.5 increase), just after an AIFTP increase. Gave it a try–rated very hard, but finished it–although not focusing on it, even hit target power until the last few intervals.
Nice validation (at least for one day) of the modeling!
I had a similar jump last night and wasn’t sure if it was a bug or real or if progression levels really aren’t meant to be relied upon. I did Orsiera, which was scheduled as part of my current plan, and I had a jump in the Anaerobic progression from 3.5 to 9.5. I responded to the survey that the workout was Hard. Aftewards it recommended an FTP increase (which it specifically said was not AI driven), but given how I felt during the longer inverals I declined it. While it’s nice to see a jump in the progression level, it’s shaken my confidence in it as a reliable indicator.
I feel like you’re thinking about this incorrectly. Your current PL is only a measure of what you have done. The system analyzed your previous workouts and thought that you could do much better. You completed the workout. 2 min 10 seconds at 130% should feel super hard.
I’m a bit confused. You completed a 9.5 anaerobic workout and “only” rated it hard and now you are not confident in the AI’s ability to assign appropriate workouts?
I’m fine for it adjusting workouts (and always take the recommendations) but an adjustment in FTP I feel would be a little tough to take when it comes to the other progression levels. I am relatively stronger for shorter efforts than I am for longer ones. Increasing FTP would have the impact of increasing the Tempo - VO2Max sessions as well, which I will admit I would likely struggle with.
I guess I have a general misunderstanding in what the PL actually means. I was thinking of it more like your level of training for each zone whereas it is probably more of a reflection of the hardest Workout Level completed for each zone. Based on that, I’m not surprised at the jump in PL.
Also, I always take the AI driven FTP adjustments, but with it explicitly stating that this adjustment wasn’t AI driven I didn’t really know how to interpret it. Did it come from some recent outdoor rides or from this one workout only? If it’s just from the one anaerobic workout then I would tend to not beleive it given my power profile.
It was a 2.7% increase. I probably should have let it give it to me and dealth with it now that I look at my training plan more closely. Everything right now is either Endurance or Anaerobic so I probably could have dealth with it. I’m not sure how the system would react if I just change it manually vs waiting for the next AI update though.
For those of you that witnessed large jumps in PL for a given workout type, have you ever seen a jump from 4.0 to 7.2? I’ve gone from doing Cerro Xecòn to Venado +1 in one week’s time. Thanks.
I can confirm that type of jump is not uncommon.
Try the 7.2 workout! If it’s way out of line, let us know. 
I gave it a try. Did the first interval without issues and half way through the second one before taking a backspin break. End up lowering the intensity 5% which allowed me to get most of the way through the last interval before taking a backspin break.
I had 3W FTP bump prior to the workout.Negligible I think. But it did lower my PL. After doing Vendado +1 I see a modest increase in PL. Is that because of the breaks and reducing intensity?
Thanks.
Yeah, that’s because you struggled with the workout.
Thanks for sharing your feedback! That’s a tough workout, and you gave it a good shot. 
It looks like you got an FTP increase on the same day. Did that come before you started the workout? It seems like that could have caused some issues with workout levels/difficulty.
Let me know your thoughts, but I’ll pass this along to the team for them to see.
Could a 3W increase be the primary factor? Or, would a big jump in PL from the last SS work out to this one be a more likely explanation?
Yes, I did the AI FTP evaluation prior to the workout.
Thanks.
I just did some digging and re-ran our workout recommender for after your FTP Detection but before you started the Venado workout, and I got Truchas -3, which seems like a better fit for you.
I’m not sure if it was the last-minute FTP change, but I do think there was an error there.
I imagine you won’t run into this again, but regardless, all of this will change and be fixed with the new release once that’s out! 
Thanks Eddie for confirming that.
Nitin