Curious what bike did you buy? And why?
If the leaked Checkout turns out to be real, it could be interesting. It basically looks like a drop bar XC bike.
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Anyone seen any more detailed reviews of the Able 2.0? Especially tire clearance and how legit the 2.2+ clearance is?
Iām tempted on a frame-only purchase - have pretty much everything else so the sting wouldnāt be that bad once I sold the current one to coverā¦
Have not ridden one or seen any detailed reviews beyond the initial release stuff. But Iāve seen a bunch of them close up at Rule of 3 and Unbound running 2.2 race kings. Proper clearance like youād expect on an off road bike.
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Spot Rallye - good choice if you need something biased towards rougher courses - good tire clearance, UDH, seatpost size that works with many droppers, etc. I also happen to have an XL top spec build for sale as Iām leaning towards building up a XC bike instead.
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Are there Seka buyers?
Only social media characters seem to be riding them, and Iām assuming they got them for free.
Pricing is high for a direct to consumer frame with no support.
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Really interested in this one - but they are only claiming 52mm in the rear. I most likely wonāt buy it unless it can fit a 2.25 'Burt on a reasonably wide rim.
Pros:
- Tire clearance
- Aero
- Looks great
- 750ml fidlock aero bottles(!)
- DT storage
- About 1kg frame weight I think they claimed in one of the vids
- 2x compatible
Cons:
- Narrowest barstem is 380mm
- Potentially short front center
- Looks like it wonāt take a big 1x chainring.
Are there any options that support 2x drivetrain and properly fit a 2.25? I would think those would be mutually exclusive, but not sure.
Iām fine with 1x if it can fit a bigger chainring.
I think youāre right such a frame doesnāt exist, but it just comes down to longer chainstays I think.
I so wish Giant would release a UDH revolt. Itās a great frame, light, round seat post, fender mounts, in frame storage, 1x or 2x compatible. But no way Iām buying a non-UDH frame at this point. Surely this update has to be imminent.
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I was talking about proper tire clearance, not whether you can fit the tire in the frame under perfect conditions. A revolt doesnāt support 2.25ās in 1x or 2x.
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AFAIK no current front derailleur is compatibile with 2.25 using the specified chainline. Youād need something like Boost hub spacing to make it work, I think. Boost gravel bikes and the attendant backlash to the new standard seem inevitableā¦.
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Random but any IG users here? Is Enve having a sales blitz or is it the anniversary of the MOG or something. Literally every Enve rider is posting about their MOG and how great it is. Are they trying to cover the fact they donāt have a MTB during Leadville week 
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New wheels today for the Lauf, went with Zipp 303 Xplr SWās and mounted up some dub 2.4ās out of curiosity whether they would fit. Lots of room in the front, but pretty tight in the rear. Similar to a Mog in the rear running a 2.2. Fine for dry conditions, but wouldnāt run this setup in the mud. And I canāt actually think of any races Iād run something bigger than a ~2.2 anyway, but cool to see they fit if the need arises. I guess maybe Big Sugar, but that last pavement stretch is a bit of a grind on big tires.
Pretty decent clearance everywhere except the chainstays (tight, but clears the little injection hairs).
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Love that bike man, nice. I just put some Thunder Burt 2.25ās on my Revolt and canāt wait to race it now that I just saw John tested that tire and got almost the same results as the 2.1 TB. I had race king 2.2ās on, but the tanwall ones so this should be a nice upgrade.
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on the topic of Lauf - do you know what this guy is alluding to in this video? seems like there is a known issue with the Siegla? And his customer experience was not good.
Crazy that 2.4s basically fit - but to your point I donāt really think there is ever a gravel race that requires that thick of a tire. Probably would just opt for the MTB at that point.
Curious what you think of the XPLR wheels too!
Yep, heās talking about speed wobble. Some people have experienced speed wobbles with the bike. Itās not an issue unique to Lauf (I had a Tarmac that would speed wobble at times). Motorcycles do it also. It happens when you get a self-perpetuating oscillation/frequency and itās dependent on weight distribution, wheels/tires used, tire pressure, weight on the fork (ie bikepacking), bar choice, road surface, headset tension, etc.. I know of lots of folks who have dealt with it, but none of them ride a lauf. I do have a couple buddies on Laufs and neither has dealt with it and Iāve never experienced it on my Siegla in thousands of miles of riding/racing on a variety of surfaces, tire choice, and speeds. When it happened on my Tarmac, it would stop if I squeezed the top tube with my knees, thatās a pretty common way to stop it. I donāt doubt the people who have experienced it with a Lauf, itās a thing. Whether itās more common on a Lauf or not, I have no idea, but I guess the suspension fork might make it more likely. Lauf does offer a āhoneyā bearing that dampens the headset a bit (not a unique part to Lauf), but I donāt have that on my bike.
I donāt know who that guy is, but I donāt doubt he ran into the issue. Whether it was as bad as he made it out to be or whether he was smart/thorough about finding a solution, I have no idea. His negative feedback on Lauf customer service surprises me though. I know the main US guy who helps support Lauf in the states and he is next level awesome (both as a person and as a technical resource). Iāve met a lot of people who know him as well and Iāve never heard anything but positive stuff. I assume he would have been involved with this guyās issue, so that part surprises me. Heās been my primary point of contact with Lauf, so maybe there are others that arenāt so good, but I canāt say. I donāt want to disparage the dude on youtube, but I also donāt know him and Iām inclined to think there is more to the story that what heās sharing (there always is). The guys says heās an open book and then doesnāt even mention the issue, that part seemed weird to me but who knows.
Funny that you would mention MTB. I ran my MTB last year at Big Sugar (a race where Iād consider the 2.4ās). There is a bunch of heavy gravel and I think volume/suspension is free speed on most of that course. And I almost hate to mention it, but I was thinking about what it would be like to race leadville on my Seigla when I was there this year. Iāve always said Iād never even consider Leadville on a hardtail MTB, but if I ever did consider it without full suspension, Iād probably do the Seigla before doing a hard tail MTB. I donāt think either of them would be as fast as my FS Epic, but it would be an interesting challenge. I actually think a Seigla with 2.4ās would be a decent bike for that course. And the wide BB spacing allows me to swap in my MTB crank/PM with a 32 ring to get the required gearing.
Havenāt even ridden them outside yet (still nursing an injury from Leadville week). My only initial impressions are that tire mounting is very tight and they slightly reduce sidewall clearance to the frame compared to what Iāve been running (303ās with 25 internal). The bike does have a nice āmonsterā vibe with the MTB tires and thick/tall wheels, makes me want to find some chunk to roll over at high speed.
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Thatās a lovely looking setup man 
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Iām āsoftā looking for a gravel bike, I have a SL7 road bike and a Trek Top Fuel 9.8 GX AXS.
It wonāt be for racing, and Iām Yorkshire, UK so plenty of trails, gravel and everything in between around. Iād like something aimed more at comfort than race speed, some form of Downtube Port for storing āstuffā, 1X at the front and some sort of suspension.
I was at the British Gravel champs and really like the look of the Pinarello Grivel (never owned a Pinarello). I also saw the new Diverge which seems to tick all the boxes.
Iām coming back from some heart surgery so realistically wonāt be riding outside until March/April so am thinking of a short, short list then see if any bargains turn up.
any thoughts on the 2 bikes above? Any others I should consider? Thinking about Ā£4k list price as a max and hopefully some nice discount at some point.