# \#ftp-test **URL:** https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/tag/ftp-test/81.md [Latest](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/latest.md) · [Categories](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/categories.md) · [Tags](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/tags.md) --- ## [Large discrepancy between AI FTP and 20 min test](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/t/large-discrepancy-between-ai-ftp-and-20-min-test/111218)
**Author:** [@KB22](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/u/KB22)\ **Replies:** 19\ **Last updated:** [February 19, 2026, 1:25am UTC](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/t/large-discrepancy-between-ai-ftp-and-20-min-test/111218 "2026-02-19T01:25:53Z")
Hey all, I am struggling a bit with the recent AI update on TrainerRoad. I’ve really enjoyed the structure, but recently I’ve found it’s often been changing my workouts and very consistently recommending recovery days. … --- ## [Out-of-the-saddle vs in-the-saddle performance and AI](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/t/out-of-the-saddle-vs-in-the-saddle-performance-and-ai/110808)
**Author:** [@fatebj](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/u/fatebj)\ **Replies:** 5\ **Last updated:** [February 4, 2026, 8:53pm UTC](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/t/out-of-the-saddle-vs-in-the-saddle-performance-and-ai/110808 "2026-02-04T20:53:10Z")
Hello, I’m new at Tainerroad software. I started to use it right a week before introducing the new AI model for everyone. I had a 10-day stage race (Zwift) that included several mountain stages, which I completed mostly … --- ## [Multiple ajustments in FTP in three weeks?](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/t/multiple-ajustments-in-ftp-in-three-weeks/106866)
**Author:** [@dikt](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/u/dikt)\ **Replies:** 2\ **Last updated:** [December 18, 2025, 4:04pm UTC](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/t/multiple-ajustments-in-ftp-in-three-weeks/106866 "2025-12-18T16:04:22Z")
Hi, I have been using trainerroad for some time now. At the moment I am in “Build” phase. After browsing through the support page I found out that trainerroad sometimes adjusts the FTP in the middle of the 28-days peri… --- ## [TrainerRoad not updating 20min Zwift FTP Test](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/t/trainerroad-not-updating-20min-zwift-ftp-test/101823)
**Author:** [@J0hn\_Smith](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/u/J0hn_Smith)\ **Replies:** 2\ **Last updated:** [March 19, 2025, 8:44am UTC](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/t/trainerroad-not-updating-20min-zwift-ftp-test/101823 "2025-03-19T08:44:58Z")
With the new integration between TR and Zwift I added a 20min FTP test to my TR calendar, the activity was successfully synced with Zwift. I completed the test in Zwift and it was synced back to TR but TR doesn’t update … --- ## [AI FTP Detection not starting after 10+ Indoor Workouts](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/t/ai-ftp-detection-not-starting-after-10-indoor-workouts/100470)
**Author:** [@Mpayne76](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/u/Mpayne76)\ **Replies:** 4\ **Last updated:** [February 7, 2025, 11:54pm UTC](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/t/ai-ftp-detection-not-starting-after-10-indoor-workouts/100470 "2025-02-07T23:54:35Z")
Have completed 10+ Indoor Training Rides and the AI Detection says I have only completed 9. Why would this be? --- ## [AI FTP unable to account for beginner breakthroughs gains?](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/t/ai-ftp-unable-to-account-for-beginner-breakthroughs-gains/91319)
**Author:** [@symmetry](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/u/symmetry)\ **Replies:** 36\ **Last updated:** [March 25, 2024, 3:36pm UTC](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/t/ai-ftp-unable-to-account-for-beginner-breakthroughs-gains/91319 "2024-03-25T15:36:18Z")
Context: Looking to post this before I do a ramp test on Wednesday to see if TrainerRoad AI FTP is too conservative because the machine learning data set possibly does not include enough breakthrough FTP increases in new… --- ## [Returning to TR after a long break... Ramp Test or AI Detection?](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/t/returning-to-tr-after-a-long-break-ramp-test-or-ai-detection/91561)
**Author:** [@nathanam00](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/u/nathanam00)\ **Replies:** 1\ **Last updated:** [March 5, 2024, 7:08pm UTC](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/t/returning-to-tr-after-a-long-break-ramp-test-or-ai-detection/91561 "2024-03-05T19:08:01Z")
I’m hoping to return to consistent training for the first time in about a year. I have been running and riding (little to no power data) during this time. I’m leaning towards doing a ramp test, but not sure if AI detecti… --- ## [Dazed and confused by 4DP Full Frontal test results](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/t/dazed-and-confused-by-4dp-full-frontal-test-results/90271)
**Author:** [@mirlord](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/u/mirlord)\ **Replies:** 29\ **Last updated:** [January 26, 2024, 4:25pm UTC](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/t/dazed-and-confused-by-4dp-full-frontal-test-results/90271 "2024-01-26T16:25:09Z")
TL;DR: Did 4DP Full Frontal test today in Wahoo SYSTM. Got confused and disappointed with the outcomes. Refusing to accept a reality check, and looking for a way to prove this test wrong. Hello my fellow FTP-obsessed ov… --- ## [AI FTP detection prompt before races](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/t/ai-ftp-detection-prompt-before-races/87085)
**Author:** [@mirlord](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/u/mirlord)\ **Replies:** 0\ **Last updated:** [September 26, 2023, 2:32am UTC](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/t/ai-ftp-detection-prompt-before-races/87085 "2023-09-26T02:32:25Z")
Hi TR team and fellow users. I have a sort of UX experience improvement in mind, which I thought I would share. Here’s the thing: when you are in a specialty phase, TR does not suggest any FTP changes, whether through a… --- ## [Advice on 20 Min FTP test result v.s. AI Detection](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/t/advice-on-20-min-ftp-test-result-v-s-ai-detection/81097)
**Author:** [@rsusanto](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/u/rsusanto)\ **Replies:** 10\ **Last updated:** [August 2, 2023, 8:14pm UTC](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/t/advice-on-20-min-ftp-test-result-v-s-ai-detection/81097 "2023-08-02T20:14:38Z")
Fellow riders, I just did my first 20 minutes FTP test earlier today. Ever since I started using TR (since 2 years ago), I have been doing only ramp tests and started using the AI detection since the beta testing days. I… --- ## [Can't schedule 8/20 8 minute FTP outside](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/t/cant-schedule-8-20-8-minute-ftp-outside/84517)
**Author:** [@mbaldini](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/u/mbaldini)\ **Replies:** 2\ **Last updated:** [June 14, 2023, 7:46am UTC](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/t/cant-schedule-8-20-8-minute-ftp-outside/84517 "2023-06-14T07:46:11Z")
Hi all! I’ve been using TR since two years right now and I always used the ramp test. As I recently mooved dont have my indor trainer so I’m doing al my workouts outside. My question is why I cannont schedule an FTP test… --- ## [AI FTP detection offered me 8w decrease, did a ramp test and got a 20w increase](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/t/ai-ftp-detection-offered-me-8w-decrease-did-a-ramp-test-and-got-a-20w-increase/79983)
**Author:** [@nene](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/u/nene)\ **Replies:** 24\ **Last updated:** [May 10, 2023, 6:46pm UTC](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/t/ai-ftp-detection-offered-me-8w-decrease-did-a-ramp-test-and-got-a-20w-increase/79983 "2023-05-10T18:46:56Z")
I have been back training indoors since October 1st. Starting with 264w FTP (AI detected). At that time, the estimated FTP felt spot-on. On November 20th AI pushed it to 271w. Since then though, the workouts suggested by… --- ## [20 Minute FTP Test protocol](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/t/20-minute-ftp-test-protocol/80496)
**Author:** [@AmirJamez](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/u/AmirJamez)\ **Replies:** 13\ **Last updated:** [January 31, 2023, 6:02pm UTC](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/t/20-minute-ftp-test-protocol/80496 "2023-01-31T18:02:54Z")
Hi everyone and coach @chad, I was looking at the 20 minutes FTP test protocol on Zwift and the original book by Andy Coggan. It seems as though the resting period between the 5-minute all-out and the actual 20-minute e… --- ## [Ftp detection after 6 months off](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/t/ftp-detection-after-6-months-off/79630)
**Author:** [@Domslot](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/u/Domslot)\ **Replies:** 32\ **Last updated:** [January 10, 2023, 10:12pm UTC](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/t/ftp-detection-after-6-months-off/79630 "2023-01-10T22:12:08Z")
Hey guys. I’ve had 6 months off the bike. Combination of poor health and losing my mojo. But now am ready to get back in the saddle. My FTP last summer was 284. With the lack of training I expected ftp detection to … --- ## [INSCYD Test Protocol on smart trainer](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/t/inscyd-test-protocol-on-smart-trainer/79160)
**Author:** [@CDM\_73](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/u/CDM_73)\ **Replies:** 2\ **Last updated:** [December 29, 2022, 3:33pm UTC](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/t/inscyd-test-protocol-on-smart-trainer/79160 "2022-12-29T15:33:33Z")
What “workouts” have people used to conduct the INSCYD test on a smart trainer? I’m not sure I could use Zwift unless its a dead flat route. Could you import a custom workout from TP? Any thoughts appreciated --- ## [During a 20 minute FTP test TR switches to resistance mode but my KICKR bike does not](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/t/during-a-20-minute-ftp-test-tr-switches-to-resistance-mode-but-my-kickr-bike-does-not/65068)
**Author:** [@renevantil](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/u/renevantil)\ **Replies:** 13\ **Last updated:** [December 11, 2022, 11:41pm UTC](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/t/during-a-20-minute-ftp-test-tr-switches-to-resistance-mode-but-my-kickr-bike-does-not/65068 "2022-12-11T23:41:45Z")
Hi all, I usally zwift but i was planning to do some real training and decided on TR. Adaptive training looks cool. So i tried a few workouts and now it was time to do a FTP test. Everything started fine, the test tell… --- ## [No tests and no FTP change in a long time, w/time off?](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/t/no-tests-and-no-ftp-change-in-a-long-time-w-time-off/77037)
**Author:** [@jesseransom](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/u/jesseransom)\ **Replies:** 5\ **Last updated:** [October 24, 2022, 4:12pm UTC](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/t/no-tests-and-no-ftp-change-in-a-long-time-w-time-off/77037 "2022-10-24T16:12:08Z")
EDIT: To save people reading the thread, per the folks who responded below, I should’ve noticed I was overdue, added a Ramp test to my calendar, and hit the AI FTP button. I just did that (and am pleased that despite my … --- ## [Performances improving but not FTP](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/t/performances-improving-but-not-ftp/75792)
**Author:** [@Alessandro\_Colosimo](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/u/Alessandro_Colosimo)\ **Replies:** 6\ **Last updated:** [September 5, 2022, 9:57pm UTC](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/t/performances-improving-but-not-ftp/75792 "2022-09-05T21:57:30Z")
So I’ve done lots of riding this year. 9000km so far with lots of climbs. End of July was sitting at 288 ftp. In August had a great month of training, 2000km and 40.000 meters of elevation gain. I improved in all the usu… --- ## [AI FTP Detection Update Question](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/t/ai-ftp-detection-update-question/75048)
**Author:** [@djlafontsee](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/u/djlafontsee)\ **Replies:** 4\ **Last updated:** [August 9, 2022, 4:11pm UTC](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/t/ai-ftp-detection-update-question/75048 "2022-08-09T16:11:02Z")
Since a recent update, AI FTP Detection now shows up as a button on future ramp test days. When clicked, does this givr a predictive estimation for what your FTP will be on the day of that upcoming ramp test, or does it … --- ## [FTP Detection not working](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/t/ftp-detection-not-working/71696)
**Author:** [@jbakkane](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/u/jbakkane)\ **Replies:** 7\ **Last updated:** [April 15, 2022, 6:47pm UTC](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/t/ftp-detection-not-working/71696 "2022-04-15T18:47:40Z")
Hi all, I signed up for the “early access” and enabled FTP detection. So I had a FTP test scheduled today and pressed the “use FTP detection” button, on the carrier page. It says it will take a minute and I press “Got… --- ## [20min FTP Test Pacing Strategies](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/t/20min-ftp-test-pacing-strategies/44951)
**Author:** [@AmirJamez](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/u/AmirJamez)\ **Replies:** 31\ **Last updated:** [February 10, 2022, 7:19pm UTC](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/t/20min-ftp-test-pacing-strategies/44951 "2022-02-10T19:19:28Z")
Original post in my Strava: Signup for free to see more about Amir. So I wanted to experiment with different pacing strategies for a 20min FTP test and see if I can come up with some customized rule of thumb for myself. … --- ## [No results given at end the end of 20min ftp test](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/t/no-results-given-at-end-the-end-of-20min-ftp-test/69022)
**Author:** [@aljawado700](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/u/aljawado700)\ **Replies:** 13\ **Last updated:** [February 8, 2022, 2:20am UTC](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/t/no-results-given-at-end-the-end-of-20min-ftp-test/69022 "2022-02-08T02:20:55Z")
I did the 20min ftp test today. At the end of the test, TR stuck in some weird state. It did save the workout and even uploaded it to Strava, but did not show the page that shows the new ftp estimate. I have attached a … --- ## [Why I failed at TrainerRoad (I think)](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/t/why-i-failed-at-trainerroad-i-think/48511)
**Author:** [@Gurbe\_Willebrords](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/u/Gurbe_Willebrords)\ **Replies:** 85\ **Last updated:** [January 6, 2022, 9:18pm UTC](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/t/why-i-failed-at-trainerroad-i-think/48511 "2022-01-06T21:18:45Z")
Dear all, I hereby wish to share my experiences using TrainerRoad. My goal is to contribute something to this community. I would love to acquire more knowledge about my physical condition and training in general. First… --- ## [What's the deal with slope mode during FTP Testing?](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/t/whats-the-deal-with-slope-mode-during-ftp-testing/65118)
**Author:** [@jweissbock](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/u/jweissbock)\ **Replies:** 3\ **Last updated:** [November 10, 2021, 12:17pm UTC](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/t/whats-the-deal-with-slope-mode-during-ftp-testing/65118 "2021-11-10T12:17:00Z")
Good Day, I’ve swapped over to TR 1-2 months ago and have been using it successfully (having come from Zwift). I use 80/20 Triathlon Training to prepare for my Ironman 70.3 Today I ran an FTP test, the 20’ standard tes… --- ## [My Entire Power Curve is Indoor - Unable to Produce same watts outdoor](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/t/my-entire-power-curve-is-indoor-unable-to-produce-same-watts-outdoor/59919)
**Author:** [@QOMJess](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/u/QOMJess)\ **Replies:** 3\ **Last updated:** [June 17, 2021, 12:02am UTC](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/t/my-entire-power-curve-is-indoor-unable-to-produce-same-watts-outdoor/59919 "2021-06-17T00:02:12Z")
Hi everyone, Across various Ramp Tests throughout my growth as a rider I’ve managed to score 218-220 and my personal best 224 FTP. I’m a 33-year old woman who started cycling 18 months ago. The numbers excite me but I’v… --- ## [Traveling during FTP Test - what to do?](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/t/traveling-during-ftp-test-what-to-do/59835)
**Author:** [@Shwamdoo](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/u/Shwamdoo)\ **Replies:** 5\ **Last updated:** [June 15, 2021, 6:18pm UTC](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/t/traveling-during-ftp-test-what-to-do/59835 "2021-06-15T18:18:59Z")
I’ll be on vacation for a week and a half in Crested Butte, CO and my next FTP test is scheduled right in the middle of the trip. I’m wondering how best to adjust my FTP and training? I live in Austin, TX at ~650’ elev… --- ## [FTP not updating in Outside workouts already pushed](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/t/ftp-not-updating-in-outside-workouts-already-pushed/57726)
**Author:** [@mikedbike](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/u/mikedbike)\ **Replies:** 5\ **Last updated:** [April 24, 2021, 9:12am UTC](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/t/ftp-not-updating-in-outside-workouts-already-pushed/57726 "2021-04-24T09:12:48Z")
Not really a software issue, but something to be aware of once your FTP increases (or decreases!) and you have scheduled workouts outside. Since TR pushes 3 days worth of workouts to Garmin (I have a 1030), the two worko… --- ## [New FTP from Garmin does not sync to Trainerroad](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/t/new-ftp-from-garmin-does-not-sync-to-trainerroad/54458)
**Author:** [@Pete85](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/u/Pete85)\ **Replies:** 2\ **Last updated:** [March 2, 2021, 7:32am UTC](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/t/new-ftp-from-garmin-does-not-sync-to-trainerroad/54458 "2021-03-02T07:32:48Z")
Hi all, I now use Trainerroad exclusively outside - I load the workouts on my Garmin Edge 530 and that works perfectly. After finishing yesterday’s workout, my Garmin told me I have a new, higher FTP (auto-calculated b… --- ## [Could you please help me estimate my ftp](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/t/could-you-please-help-me-estimate-my-ftp/53231)
**Author:** [@simon\_Simon](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/u/simon_Simon)\ **Replies:** 7\ **Last updated:** [February 15, 2021, 3:09pm UTC](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/t/could-you-please-help-me-estimate-my-ftp/53231 "2021-02-15T15:09:54Z")
Hello, I am a 18 years old triathlete and 72kg at the moment. Since my last ftp test was almost a year ago i have difficulty estimating what i should be aiming for in my upcoming test. My last test was 350 watts on 20 m… --- ## [FTP Tests by TR, Sufferfest, and Zwift](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/t/ftp-tests-by-tr-sufferfest-and-zwift/51360)
**Author:** [@rafaelcepeda](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/u/rafaelcepeda)\ **Replies:** 17\ **Last updated:** [January 22, 2021, 1:32am UTC](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/t/ftp-tests-by-tr-sufferfest-and-zwift/51360 "2021-01-22T01:32:29Z")
Hi All. Been exploring different training apps and I’m having a hard time locking down on the FTP. TR & Zwift did the ramp test and they around +/-1% from each other, which is good. So that’s around 200watts for me. … [Next page](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/tag/ftp-test/81.md?match_all_tags=true&page=1&tags%5B%5D=ftp-test)