# Zwift "Premium", TR Merger or Add-In speculation **URL:** \ **Category:** Uncategorized\ **Created:** [January 14, 2022, 9:26pm UTC](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/t/zwift-premium-tr-merger-or-add-in-speculation/67765 "2022-01-14T21:26:01Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 59
**Author:** ![Dustyf18](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/trainerroad/forum/user_avatar/www.trainerroad.com/dustyf18/32/12908_2.png) [@Dustyf18](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/u/Dustyf18)\ **Post date:** [February 16, 2022, 6:11pm UTC](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/t/zwift-premium-tr-merger-or-add-in-speculation/67765/1240 "2022-02-16T18:11:47Z")
I’ve read (Slowtwitch I think) that Zwift was looking at/considering/researching buying TrainerRoad. What is this status or truth on this? Reason Is I am at renewal and Zwift destroyed my old running pod maki.ng it useless by only allowing it on a treadmill and Zwift. I don’t Zwift but use Trainer Road for my training and just basic health management. Thanks for any inside info ---
**Author:** ![mcneese.chad](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/trainerroad/forum/user_avatar/www.trainerroad.com/mcneese.chad/32/15056_2.png) [@mcneese.chad](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/u/mcneese.chad)\ **Post date:** [February 16, 2022, 6:15pm UTC](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/t/zwift-premium-tr-merger-or-add-in-speculation/67765/1241 "2022-02-16T18:15:15Z")
I moved your post under the lengthy one covering the topic. > [@Dustyf18](#): > > What is this status or truth on this? - We know pretty much nothing, as the wild range of speculation above can show. ---
**Author:** ![Michael\_Tate](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/trainerroad/forum/user_avatar/www.trainerroad.com/michael_tate/32/76007_2.png) [@Michael\_Tate](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/u/Michael_Tate)\ **Post date:** [February 16, 2022, 7:11pm UTC](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/t/zwift-premium-tr-merger-or-add-in-speculation/67765/1242 "2022-02-16T19:11:48Z")
> [@Dustyf18](#): > > What is this status or truth on this? The following picture is a good summary of what we know: ![image](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/trainerroad/original/3X/1/0/107cec1d61591b6905795337daca56cf38b4e007.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![Dustyf18](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/trainerroad/forum/user_avatar/www.trainerroad.com/dustyf18/32/12908_2.png) [@Dustyf18](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/u/Dustyf18)\ **Post date:** [February 16, 2022, 7:34pm UTC](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/t/zwift-premium-tr-merger-or-add-in-speculation/67765/1243 "2022-02-16T19:34:16Z")
Ha! That’s funny…and I guess unfortunately accurate! ---
**Author:** ![kevistraining](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/trainerroad/forum/user_avatar/www.trainerroad.com/kevistraining/32/171237_2.png) [@kevistraining](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/u/kevistraining)\ **Post date:** [February 16, 2022, 8:43pm UTC](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/t/zwift-premium-tr-merger-or-add-in-speculation/67765/1244 "2022-02-16T20:43:44Z")
Two theories. Zwift is the real world and our reality is actually the simulation or Nate And Eric are reptiles from outer space. It’s one of them but I don’t know which 🤔 ---
**Author:** ![Slowsher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Slowsher](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/u/Slowsher)\ **Post date:** [February 16, 2022, 8:52pm UTC](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/t/zwift-premium-tr-merger-or-add-in-speculation/67765/1245 "2022-02-16T20:52:53Z")
Admit it, Chad. You were bored and found a way to bump this thread back up. ---
**Author:** ![mcneese.chad](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/trainerroad/forum/user_avatar/www.trainerroad.com/mcneese.chad/32/15056_2.png) [@mcneese.chad](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/u/mcneese.chad)\ **Post date:** [February 16, 2022, 8:53pm UTC](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/t/zwift-premium-tr-merger-or-add-in-speculation/67765/1246 "2022-02-16T20:53:28Z")
_Sooooo_ bored 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Pbase](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/trainerroad/forum/user_avatar/www.trainerroad.com/pbase/32/969_2.png) [@Pbase](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/u/Pbase)\ **Post date:** [February 16, 2022, 8:59pm UTC](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/t/zwift-premium-tr-merger-or-add-in-speculation/67765/1247 "2022-02-16T20:59:51Z")
Chad’s burner accounts ---
**Author:** ![Michael\_Tate](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/trainerroad/forum/user_avatar/www.trainerroad.com/michael_tate/32/76007_2.png) [@Michael\_Tate](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/u/Michael_Tate)\ **Post date:** [February 16, 2022, 9:23pm UTC](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/t/zwift-premium-tr-merger-or-add-in-speculation/67765/1248 "2022-02-16T21:23:57Z")
> [@kevistraining](#): > > Two theories. Zwift is the real world and our reality is actually the simulation So what you’re saying is that if I reduce my weight in the Zwift app, that means I get a real life weight loss. But if I eat nothing but celery for a week and my scale tells me I lost 3kg, I really haven’t lost anything UNTIL I change my weight in Zwift…interesting indeed. ---
**Author:** ![kevistraining](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/trainerroad/forum/user_avatar/www.trainerroad.com/kevistraining/32/171237_2.png) [@kevistraining](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/u/kevistraining)\ **Post date:** [February 16, 2022, 9:31pm UTC](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/t/zwift-premium-tr-merger-or-add-in-speculation/67765/1249 "2022-02-16T21:31:51Z")
That’s just being silly… everyone knows you lower your weight in zwift first than try and diet down to it. ---
**Author:** ![bobmcstuff](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/trainerroad/forum/user_avatar/www.trainerroad.com/bobmcstuff/32/12893_2.png) [@bobmcstuff](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/u/bobmcstuff)\ **Post date:** [February 17, 2022, 2:50pm UTC](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/t/zwift-premium-tr-merger-or-add-in-speculation/67765/1250 "2022-02-17T14:50:10Z")
Zwift weight is like “residual self image” in the Matrix… It’s how I see myself. ---
**Author:** ![DwayneB](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/trainerroad/forum/user_avatar/www.trainerroad.com/dwayneb/32/43662_2.png) [@DwayneB](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/u/DwayneB)\ **Post date:** [February 18, 2022, 7:19am UTC](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/t/zwift-premium-tr-merger-or-add-in-speculation/67765/1251 "2022-02-18T07:19:31Z")
Man, I’d love to see a chart of real weight vs Zwift weight. I feel like such a sucker sometimes for actually trying to be accurate with having my weight set to 78 kg, and will actually adjust it up and back down as needed if I’m well-hydrated or whatever. ---
**Author:** ![Pbase](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/trainerroad/forum/user_avatar/www.trainerroad.com/pbase/32/969_2.png) [@Pbase](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/u/Pbase)\ **Post date:** [February 18, 2022, 7:22am UTC](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/t/zwift-premium-tr-merger-or-add-in-speculation/67765/1252 "2022-02-18T07:22:18Z")
> [@DwayneB](#): > > I feel like such a sucker sometimes for actually trying to be accurate Same. I have to avoid some posts on the Zwift riders page because it kills me to see people brag about sub-60 min alp climbs and then look at their photos. ---
**Author:** ![Larzi](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/trainerroad/forum/user_avatar/www.trainerroad.com/larzi/32/12893_2.png) [@Larzi](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/u/Larzi)\ **Post date:** [February 18, 2022, 7:23am UTC](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/t/zwift-premium-tr-merger-or-add-in-speculation/67765/1253 "2022-02-18T07:23:30Z")
> [@kevistraining](#): > > Nate And Eric are reptiles from outer space So Nate and Eric are really the ones controlling the world, but making it look like they are about to be bought by Zwift to hide that fact? ---
**Author:** ![mountainrunner](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/trainerroad/forum/user_avatar/www.trainerroad.com/mountainrunner/32/65318_2.png) [@mountainrunner](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/u/mountainrunner)\ **Post date:** [February 18, 2022, 8:41am UTC](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/t/zwift-premium-tr-merger-or-add-in-speculation/67765/1254 "2022-02-18T08:41:51Z")
This has been an entertaining thread to read, but Nate’s comment about happily being underestimated keeps replaying in my head. ---
**Author:** ![Joelrivera](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/trainerroad/forum/user_avatar/www.trainerroad.com/joelrivera/32/145557_2.png) [@Joelrivera](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/u/Joelrivera)\ **Post date:** [February 18, 2022, 11:06am UTC](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/t/zwift-premium-tr-merger-or-add-in-speculation/67765/1255 "2022-02-18T11:06:20Z")
Twist… Z came with a BIG buy out offer and Nate told him to pound sand! And now Z people are trolling him by doing all things they have been doing the last few weeks… ---
**Author:** ![bobmcstuff](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/trainerroad/forum/user_avatar/www.trainerroad.com/bobmcstuff/32/12893_2.png) [@bobmcstuff](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/u/bobmcstuff)\ **Post date:** [February 18, 2022, 11:50am UTC](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/t/zwift-premium-tr-merger-or-add-in-speculation/67765/1256 "2022-02-18T11:50:23Z")
> [@DwayneB](#): > > Man, I’d love to see a chart of real weight vs Zwift weight. I feel like such a sucker sometimes for actually trying to be accurate with having my weight set to 78 kg, and will actually adjust it up and back down as needed if I’m well-hydrated or whatever. I actually do keep mine up to date with my weigh-ins, so based on the variability there I would say my Zwift weight is typically within +/- 1kg of my real weight. I.e., good enough IMO. I don’t weigh within 2 hours of the race or whatever it is for the top leagues. If I get close to the A boundary again I probably will start necking pints of water before my weigh in though… ---
**Author:** ![jakobhansen888](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/trainerroad/forum/user_avatar/www.trainerroad.com/jakobhansen888/32/47912_2.png) [@jakobhansen888](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/u/jakobhansen888)\ **Post date:** [February 18, 2022, 3:28pm UTC](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/t/zwift-premium-tr-merger-or-add-in-speculation/67765/1258 "2022-02-18T15:28:56Z")
Similarly I keep my weight relative up to date and would say in general it is within +/- a kg or two. I am a heavy cat c rider so a kilo or two either side makes relative little difference. Yes there are cheats. I use Zwift power which does help in dealing with this. ---
**Author:** ![killroy123](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/trainerroad/forum/user_avatar/www.trainerroad.com/killroy123/32/88621_2.png) [@killroy123](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/u/killroy123)\ **Post date:** [February 18, 2022, 3:31pm UTC](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/t/zwift-premium-tr-merger-or-add-in-speculation/67765/1259 "2022-02-18T15:31:41Z")
> [@clasher](#): > > it’s just a game, why care about it so much? [![](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/trainerroad/original/3X/5/d/5d4765a90a5347d562c66407bae11f18ce2a9c14.jpeg "Why you heff to be mad? (Original)") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xzpndHtdl9A) ---
**Author:** ![jakobhansen888](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/trainerroad/forum/user_avatar/www.trainerroad.com/jakobhansen888/32/47912_2.png) [@jakobhansen888](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/u/jakobhansen888)\ **Post date:** [February 18, 2022, 3:36pm UTC](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/t/zwift-premium-tr-merger-or-add-in-speculation/67765/1260 "2022-02-18T15:36:39Z")
There is a lot of nose sky attitude towards Zwift on this forum I find. I use both platforms for different purposes. But ultimately it is all cycling (of sorts) [Previous page](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/t/zwift-premium-tr-merger-or-add-in-speculation/67765.md?page=58) [Next page](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/t/zwift-premium-tr-merger-or-add-in-speculation/67765.md?page=60)