# XC Race Tire Thread **URL:** \ **Category:** Equipment\ **Tags:** tires\ **Created:** [January 2, 2021, 11:35pm UTC](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/t/xc-race-tire-thread/49967 "2021-01-02T23:35:27Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 91
**Author:** ![HumpDiesel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/d6d6ee/32.png) [@HumpDiesel](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/u/HumpDiesel)\ **Post date:** [October 19, 2024, 11:45am UTC](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/t/xc-race-tire-thread/49967/1914 "2024-10-19T11:45:50Z")
What’s the go to combo with Aspens? Double aspens? Aspen out back and another up front? I’ve seen guys racing Pisgah Stage race in the rain running Aspens out back and Rekon up front or Rekon Race up front. What’s been your combo? ---
**Author:** ![wfenwick](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/trainerroad/forum/user_avatar/www.trainerroad.com/wfenwick/32/150323_2.png) [@wfenwick](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/u/wfenwick)\ **Post date:** [October 19, 2024, 12:21pm UTC](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/t/xc-race-tire-thread/49967/1915 "2024-10-19T12:21:51Z")
Aspen/Aspen Aspen ST/Aspen Both of these have served me very well I’ve also run a combo that’s maybe a little counter into intuitive but was inspired by Russell Finsterwald a few years ago. Aspen (f)/Rekon Race(r). The thinking is that the Aspen actually does corner pretty well, but has so much open space between lugs that it’s a little bit more flat prone. The Rekon Race has a little bit more tread across the body and is a touch tougher, so it stands a better chance in the rear. I ran this at Leadville and was very happy with it in 2022 but have switched since to primarily just aspen iterations front and rear ---
**Author:** ![stonerider](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/trainerroad/forum/user_avatar/www.trainerroad.com/stonerider/32/158103_2.png) [@stonerider](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/u/stonerider)\ **Post date:** [October 19, 2024, 8:45pm UTC](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/t/xc-race-tire-thread/49967/1916 "2024-10-19T20:45:13Z")
I like 2.4 Rekon Race front with 2.4 Aspen rear. For me, the Rekon Race corners better than the Aspen. The only downside to the Rekon Race is it is heavier than the Aspen. ---
**Author:** ![lloydrm](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/b9bd4f/32.png) [@lloydrm](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/u/lloydrm)\ **Post date:** [October 20, 2024, 5:13am UTC](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/t/xc-race-tire-thread/49967/1917 "2024-10-20T05:13:13Z")
Pirelli xc m / aspen ---
**Author:** ![Majoeric](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/trainerroad/forum/user_avatar/www.trainerroad.com/majoeric/32/166482_2.png) [@Majoeric](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/u/Majoeric)\ **Post date:** [October 22, 2024, 4:20pm UTC](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/t/xc-race-tire-thread/49967/1919 "2024-10-22T16:20:58Z")
Mine recently arrived and the weights are 745-747g for the 2.4’s. I want to try them for my next race in two weeks but I’m a tad nervous because I’ve had such great luck with the ray/ray combo I currently have. ![IMG_4005](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/trainerroad/original/3X/f/a/facbcc69975503478ed0e01ecc0ba2059bfb0395.jpeg) 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![stonerider](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/trainerroad/forum/user_avatar/www.trainerroad.com/stonerider/32/158103_2.png) [@stonerider](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/u/stonerider)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2024, 10:36am UTC](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/t/xc-race-tire-thread/49967/1920 "2024-10-23T10:36:33Z")
Let us know how wide they measure after you mount them on your wheels. If you’ve been using the Ray on the front I’m sure you will get along fine with the Rick XC. ---
**Author:** ![lloydrm](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/b9bd4f/32.png) [@lloydrm](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/u/lloydrm)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2024, 8:55pm UTC](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/t/xc-race-tire-thread/49967/1921 "2024-10-23T20:55:16Z")
Collagen peptides will surely make them incredibly pliable. 😁 ---
**Author:** ![fporter](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/43a26b/32.png) [@fporter](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/u/fporter)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2024, 10:56pm UTC](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/t/xc-race-tire-thread/49967/1922 "2024-10-23T22:56:55Z")
That’s pretty amazing. I’ve gone through multiple 2.35" Ralphs on 30mm IW rims inflated to at most 23psi (I weigh 175lbs nkd) and they never get to 2.35". Unless the rider is heavy 30psi is pretty hard I wish there was a 2.4" Race King with maybe slightly larger side knobs similar to how the tread changes on the 2.35 Ikon vs smaller versions of the Ikon. ---
**Author:** ![Kuttermax](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/trainerroad/forum/user_avatar/www.trainerroad.com/kuttermax/32/101635_2.png) [@Kuttermax](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/u/Kuttermax)\ **Post date:** [October 24, 2024, 12:12am UTC](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/t/xc-race-tire-thread/49967/1923 "2024-10-24T00:12:28Z")
I spoke with the gentleman at the Conti Booth at Big Sugar last weekend about the new tires. It was the same guy who was at the booth at Unbound. I flat out asked him if he had any prototypes he could show me and he laughed, but said no… He did confirm what others have been saying in terms of new XC tires coming. I asked him if a launch in Spring 2025 would be the timeframe and he said that seemed about right. They are also expanding their offerings on the gravel side. They are looking to fill some gaps in the line up with a fast tire in the 50mm range. I just received ENVE’s new M5 Pro wheelset. I have to work this weekend, so won’t be able to ride, but hoping the weather holds up the following weekend. Going to put something a little more chunky on them given it leaf litter season. Thinking the Kenda Karma2 Pro. ---
**Author:** ![cassinonorth](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/trainerroad/forum/user_avatar/www.trainerroad.com/cassinonorth/32/155501_2.png) [@cassinonorth](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/u/cassinonorth)\ **Post date:** [October 24, 2024, 12:47pm UTC](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/t/xc-race-tire-thread/49967/1924 "2024-10-24T12:47:52Z")
> [@fporter](#): > > That’s pretty amazing. I’ve gone through multiple 2.35" Ralphs on 30mm IW rims inflated to at most 23psi (I weigh 175lbs nkd) and they never get to 2.35". Just remeasured since I was lazy the first time after setting them up tubeless… 21 PSI, same 30mm ID…2.340". Not bad. Close enough to the advertised width. ---
**Author:** ![Bartezz](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/trainerroad/forum/user_avatar/www.trainerroad.com/bartezz/32/61878_2.png) [@Bartezz](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/u/Bartezz)\ **Post date:** [October 24, 2024, 1:33pm UTC](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/t/xc-race-tire-thread/49967/1925 "2024-10-24T13:33:26Z")
What’s your experience for weight on racing ralph/ray in super race compound? Got a new set and they both weight above 780 grams a piece, which came as a surprise to me because 705 is advertised. Should i return them and order new ones? ---
**Author:** ![teddygram](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/trainerroad/forum/user_avatar/www.trainerroad.com/teddygram/32/12895_2.png) [@teddygram](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/u/teddygram)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2024, 8:32pm UTC](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/t/xc-race-tire-thread/49967/1926 "2024-10-25T20:32:07Z")
Here was my review out of the box on this combination > [@XC Race Tire Thread](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/t/xc-race-tire-thread/49967/1525): > > I mounted my Ray/Ralph combo tonight (really smart to put tires I never have used on a day before a race!) Here are my quick notes; -Both tires measured at the manufactured specified weight +/- 3g -Both tires mounted on to my rims with no hassle, by hand (no tools) and inflated with ease. -The racing ray and ralph share the same furthest side knob location, shape (and I believe depth). -Brand new out of the box mounted on my 30mm ID Alpha wheelset they measured 2.28" (I am disappointed some… ---
**Author:** ![DMC](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/trainerroad/forum/user_avatar/www.trainerroad.com/dmc/32/175666_2.png) [@DMC](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/u/DMC)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2024, 8:44pm UTC](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/t/xc-race-tire-thread/49967/1927 "2024-10-25T20:44:14Z")
I haven’t weighed my Ray/Ralph combo, but I go with the super ground (blue) over super race. They tested faster (or the same) with improved protection. YMMV ---
**Author:** ![Bartezz](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/trainerroad/forum/user_avatar/www.trainerroad.com/bartezz/32/61878_2.png) [@Bartezz](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/u/Bartezz)\ **Post date:** [October 26, 2024, 5:57am UTC](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/t/xc-race-tire-thread/49967/1928 "2024-10-26T05:57:46Z")
Order 2 extra sets from different store. Ray came in at 770 and 760 grams, ralph at 740 and 760. So a little bit lighter but far from 705 gram. I’ve got the super ground version before they where actually lighter ray at 740 and ralph at 750 both stretched to 58 mm on 29rim. Which is actually the same as a 2.2 raceking on the 29rim. Profile width is different of course. Switched to super race as an experiment because I found the super ground not feeling as smooth as I would expected. Lower pressures they started to feel sluggish. Of course it’s just feel. ---
**Author:** ![cassinonorth](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/trainerroad/forum/user_avatar/www.trainerroad.com/cassinonorth/32/155501_2.png) [@cassinonorth](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/u/cassinonorth)\ **Post date:** [October 28, 2024, 8:01pm UTC](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/t/xc-race-tire-thread/49967/1929 "2024-10-28T20:01:04Z")
Where are you seeing 705g? [29x2.35" Ray 730g Super Ground and 740g Super Race](https://www.schwalbetires.com/Racing-Ray-11601111?srsltid=AfmBOoq7w3wJmGXcZzlH75IUUKZKgdgLR-VLri7vwrCsWbI4pjxVuX2C) [29x2.35 Ralph 730g Super Ground and 745g Super Race](https://www.schwalbetires.com/Racing-Ralph-11654433) ---
**Author:** ![teddygram](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/trainerroad/forum/user_avatar/www.trainerroad.com/teddygram/32/12895_2.png) [@teddygram](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/u/teddygram)\ **Post date:** [October 28, 2024, 9:47pm UTC](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/t/xc-race-tire-thread/49967/1930 "2024-10-28T21:47:27Z")
I must have missed that, mine were most certainly 740-750g for either the ray or ralph. ---
**Author:** ![Bartezz](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/trainerroad/forum/user_avatar/www.trainerroad.com/bartezz/32/61878_2.png) [@Bartezz](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/u/Bartezz)\ **Post date:** [October 30, 2024, 2:41pm UTC](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/t/xc-race-tire-thread/49967/1931 "2024-10-30T14:41:47Z")
> [@teddygram](#): > > 40-750g for either It was on the sellers website, but obviously it is wrong… Man they’re heavy then for xc-race tires 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![teddygram](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/trainerroad/forum/user_avatar/www.trainerroad.com/teddygram/32/12895_2.png) [@teddygram](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/u/teddygram)\ **Post date:** [October 30, 2024, 2:48pm UTC](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/t/xc-race-tire-thread/49967/1932 "2024-10-30T14:48:40Z")
I agree they are not super light - but I successfully rode them all season this year for both training and racing in any conditions or any trail type (root, dirt, muddy, rocky etc). I did not have a flat (heck I never even added sealant), and the carcass/sidewalls have lots of small slash’s in them but neither tire gave up the fight! ---
**Author:** ![Majoeric](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/trainerroad/forum/user_avatar/www.trainerroad.com/majoeric/32/166482_2.png) [@Majoeric](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/u/Majoeric)\ **Post date:** [October 30, 2024, 3:42pm UTC](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/t/xc-race-tire-thread/49967/1933 "2024-10-30T15:42:50Z")
This is most important… I would rather have an extra 100ish grams of tire mass if I knew it would most likely prevent a failure during a race. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![teddygram](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/trainerroad/forum/user_avatar/www.trainerroad.com/teddygram/32/12895_2.png) [@teddygram](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/u/teddygram)\ **Post date:** [October 30, 2024, 4:14pm UTC](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/t/xc-race-tire-thread/49967/1934 "2024-10-30T16:14:39Z")
Just to follow up I grabbed some quick pics of the tires. ![IMG_3892](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/trainerroad/original/3X/4/b/4b9d03e63cc11280eccc970590c900e36eec2083.jpeg) I find the above photo very interesting because it is showing how much the rear is taking on my “leans” for steering. I am dragging the logos off the side of the tire. I ride this bike with intent or expectation that the rear is going to slide/skid in very aggressive corners or downhills. This rear tire is typically ran at 23psi and has never seen less than 20.5psi. ![IMG_3893](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/trainerroad/original/3X/7/2/724e65e50849174c06848dc37a51c60cd0b9af7a.jpeg) ![IMG_3894](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/trainerroad/original/3X/4/5/459b96c56e5326e22ad675c573d040c5ef1dae79.jpeg) ![IMG_3895](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/trainerroad/original/3X/0/5/051759ef0375c6cb07c195070560e88c8200bca7.jpeg) ![IMG_3896](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/trainerroad/original/3X/f/1/f125d8d7327e165ad79167e8ffcf13241023b4ec.jpeg) I think its never a bad idea to show stuff while talking about it! These are a little deeper than I remembered! I most likely will start with fresh tires next season but these are taking a real beating. I am 200+lbs! [Previous page](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/t/xc-race-tire-thread/49967.md?page=90) [Next page](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/t/xc-race-tire-thread/49967.md?page=92)