Workout Levels V2 update? [Unstructured Rides]

Still wish I could get this for my outdoor rides to handle naturally. To keep my levels in line, I just “recreate” the workout in workout Creator. Wish I didn’t have to as it’s not as accurate.

Justin Koszarek (He/Him/His)

| cartsman
January 9 |

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Exactly this. It has become much better at giving me stretch or breakthrough workouts based on my riding and history. E.g. My Sweetspot level was recently at 1.3 having not done any structured SS since the summer, when I added a plan for the new year it launched me right in with a level 7.8 SS workout. Which was pretty manageable. Guess it would be nice if as well as giving me that workout it had guesstimated my WL to be ~6-7 so that workout was marked as Productive or Stretch instead of Breakthrough or Not Recommended. But that’s maybe just ego massaging (look how high all my WLs are!), whereas what’s important is getting prescribed the right workout which it seems to be nailing better than ever before.

Well said. I started this thread years ago with a simple curiosity as to when a teased feature would become available. But that feature isn’t necessary anymore.

When they announced the TrainerRoad AI stuff, I finally resubscribed. Luckily, I made it into the beta and it’s solid stuff for sure. I think I would still have liked the classic concept of WLV2 (unstructured / unscheduled rides affecting levels) mostly due to ego (like cartsman said). I think this sport attracts a lot of analytical type A folks, and we like to see the outcome of our efforts numerically.

I don’t think it’ll happen anymore because it’s unnecessary, but it definitely would have been neat.

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In my head, WLV2 for unstructured rides is not about picking workouts but about enabling you to see the impact of your outdoor rides on you. Whether that’s expressed as workout levels or something else is kinda secondary to the importance of seeing the impact.

Sad to hear no progress on that. I’m assuming no progress for custom workouts (they still have incorrect levels) either. I’m not in the beta (and have no desire to be) but it sounds like TR is moving more and more towards an unexplainable black box model. Maybe that’s their core audience :person_shrugging:

for clarity it sounds like levels and ftp are still very much in the product TrainerRoad’s Biggest Update Ever Is Coming 👀 - #142 by Nate_Pearson

Why do you need it to update though? If you’re not doing TR workouts then the WL has no relevance. If you are doing TR workouts then both the Plan and Train Now will give you an appropriate workout based on the riding you’ve been doing regardless of what your WL is showing as.

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I intermix workouts and rides I just do for fun. It’d be neat if I could see the affect of “just for fun” rides.

Oh, I’m doing near exclusive TR workouts - it just the group rides and races in the summer that I like to keep in the files.