# Ultegra and 105 compatibility

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**Category:** Equipment\
**Created:** [March 23, 2019, 1:42pm UTC](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/t/ultegra-and-105-compatibility/13724 "2019-03-23T13:42:26Z")\
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**Author:** ![shafwaan](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/trainerroad/forum/user_avatar/www.trainerroad.com/shafwaan/32/9531_2.png) [@shafwaan](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/u/shafwaan)\
**Post date:** [March 23, 2019, 1:42pm UTC](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/t/ultegra-and-105-compatibility/13724/1 "2019-03-23T13:42:26Z")

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Wondering if somebody could shed some light - I need to replace a left crank arm due to damage. My chainset is 105 5800 170mm and looking through ebay there are a few ultegra 6800 170mm left hand cranks available.

Will these fit?

Thanks in advance

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**Author:** ![mcneese.chad](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/trainerroad/forum/user_avatar/www.trainerroad.com/mcneese.chad/32/15056_2.png) [@mcneese.chad](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/u/mcneese.chad)\
**Post date:** [March 23, 2019, 1:44pm UTC](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/t/ultegra-and-105-compatibility/13724/2 "2019-03-23T13:44:57Z")

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Perfect fit, no issues at all.

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**Author:** ![cyclhist](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/trainerroad/forum/user_avatar/www.trainerroad.com/cyclhist/32/14840_2.png) [@cyclhist](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/u/cyclhist)\
**Post date:** [March 23, 2019, 1:46pm UTC](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/t/ultegra-and-105-compatibility/13724/3 "2019-03-23T13:46:03Z")

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> [@shafwaan](#):
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> Wondering if somebody could shed some light - I need to replace a left crank arm due to damage. My chainset is 105 5800 170mm and looking through ebay there are a few ultegra 6800 170mm left hand cranks available.

Yes, they’ll work fine as both are (afaik) 11-speed setups from the same generation. Mixing different generations can be more complicated and Shimano doesn’t support mixing 10 and 11-speed setups although anecdotally even a 5700 transmission and an ultegra 6800 crankset work fine.

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**Author:** ![shafwaan](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/trainerroad/forum/user_avatar/www.trainerroad.com/shafwaan/32/9531_2.png) [@shafwaan](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/u/shafwaan)\
**Post date:** [March 23, 2019, 2:54pm UTC](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/t/ultegra-and-105-compatibility/13724/4 "2019-03-23T14:54:21Z")

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Thanks for the advice, much appreciated!

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**Author:** ![themagicspanner](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/trainerroad/forum/user_avatar/www.trainerroad.com/themagicspanner/32/129528_2.png) [@themagicspanner](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/u/themagicspanner)\
**Post date:** [March 23, 2019, 3:21pm UTC](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/t/ultegra-and-105-compatibility/13724/5 "2019-03-23T15:21:07Z")

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Every generation of HollowTech crank arms are cross-compatible as the splines haven’t changed, to the best of my knowledge. The left arm isn’t exactly what you’d describe as ‘speed specific’.

Mike

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**Author:** ![cyclhist](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/trainerroad/forum/user_avatar/www.trainerroad.com/cyclhist/32/14840_2.png) [@cyclhist](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/u/cyclhist)\
**Post date:** [March 23, 2019, 4:27pm UTC](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/t/ultegra-and-105-compatibility/13724/6 "2019-03-23T16:27:30Z")

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> [@themagicspanner](#):
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> Every generation of HollowTech crank arms are cross-compatible as the splines haven’t changed, to the best of my knowledge. The left arm isn’t exactly what you’d describe as ‘speed specific’.

My bad. I read this too quickly. I thought he was going to take this opportunity to upgrade the crankset. 🙂 Detention for me!

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**Author:** ![themagicspanner](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/trainerroad/forum/user_avatar/www.trainerroad.com/themagicspanner/32/129528_2.png) [@themagicspanner](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/u/themagicspanner)\
**Post date:** [March 23, 2019, 5:47pm UTC](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/t/ultegra-and-105-compatibility/13724/7 "2019-03-23T17:47:15Z")

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I do that all the time.

Mike

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**Author:** ![RobertSims](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/trainerroad/forum/user_avatar/www.trainerroad.com/robertsims/32/26170_2.png) [@RobertSims](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/u/RobertSims)\
**Post date:** [March 23, 2019, 7:48pm UTC](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/t/ultegra-and-105-compatibility/13724/8 "2019-03-23T19:48:31Z")

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No problem at all.

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**Author:** ![Nicleza](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/trainerroad/forum/user_avatar/www.trainerroad.com/nicleza/32/66829_2.png) [@Nicleza](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/u/Nicleza)\
**Post date:** [September 22, 2020, 6:03am UTC](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/t/ultegra-and-105-compatibility/13724/9 "2020-09-22T06:03:24Z")

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Re-cycling this thread:  
My big Chain ring is worn and needs to be replaced. It’s a 105 5800 chainring and crank arm. Would an Ultegra chainring fit?

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**Author:** ![mcalista](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/trainerroad/forum/user_avatar/www.trainerroad.com/mcalista/32/92377_2.png) [@mcalista](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/u/mcalista)\
**Post date:** [September 22, 2020, 6:05am UTC](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/t/ultegra-and-105-compatibility/13724/10 "2020-09-22T06:05:21Z")

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6800 would. Not R8000, as it is a 4 bolt pattern versus the 5 bolts of 5800/6800.

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**Author:** ![duje.jelaska](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/trainerroad/forum/user_avatar/www.trainerroad.com/duje.jelaska/32/7721_2.png) [@duje.jelaska](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/u/duje.jelaska)\
**Post date:** [September 22, 2020, 6:46pm UTC](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/t/ultegra-and-105-compatibility/13724/11 "2020-09-22T18:46:36Z")

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5800/ 6800 are 4 bolt as well, but won’t fit bc the inner chainring on r8000 series moved inboard ever so slightly.

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**Author:** ![Nicleza](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/trainerroad/forum/user_avatar/www.trainerroad.com/nicleza/32/66829_2.png) [@Nicleza](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/u/Nicleza)\
**Post date:** [September 25, 2020, 3:48am UTC](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/t/ultegra-and-105-compatibility/13724/12 "2020-09-25T03:48:58Z")

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But 105 5800 is compatible with Ultegra 6800, right?

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**Author:** ![markryd](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/trainerroad/forum/user_avatar/www.trainerroad.com/markryd/32/6191_2.png) [@markryd](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/u/markryd)\
**Post date:** [September 25, 2020, 5:32am UTC](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/t/ultegra-and-105-compatibility/13724/13 "2020-09-25T05:32:27Z")

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Yes. And I’ve done exactly this, fitted an 6800 large chainring to a 5800 crankset.
