# Training with the opposite sex **URL:** \ **Category:** Uncategorized\ **Created:** [April 27, 2019, 2:15am UTC](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/t/training-with-the-opposite-sex/15156 "2019-04-27T02:15:46Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![onemanpeloton](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/trainerroad/forum/user_avatar/www.trainerroad.com/onemanpeloton/32/69536_2.png) [@onemanpeloton](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/u/onemanpeloton)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2019, 2:46pm UTC](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/t/training-with-the-opposite-sex/15156/66 "2019-12-13T14:46:00Z")
> [@Captain\_Doughnutman](#): > > Just because they are female it doesn’t mean 1) they are weaker than you, and/or 2) they want you to hit on them Dude, seriously. He didn’t say those things. It’s hard enough to have a productive discussion on this issue already, without the need for your to misrepresent what people are saying. Also I’m pretty sure women a) don’t all think the same b) don’t need you speaking on their behalf ---
**Author:** ![anon67840561](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/919ad9/32.png) [@anon67840561](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/u/anon67840561)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2019, 3:55pm UTC](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/t/training-with-the-opposite-sex/15156/67 "2019-12-13T15:55:14Z")
Not at all what I was implying. It’s a simple matter of physics. A smaller person on flat ground will, all things being equal, have a lower power to drag ratio. So…if a smaller person is hanging, the statistics say they are likely either more fit than the larger people, or are better at suffering, or both. ---
**Author:** ![Bryce](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/trainerroad/forum/user_avatar/www.trainerroad.com/bryce/32/72_2.png) [@Bryce](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/u/Bryce)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2019, 5:57pm UTC](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/t/training-with-the-opposite-sex/15156/68 "2019-12-13T17:57:12Z")
@onemanpeloton @ellotheth Let all remember the rules of the forum to try and keep all conversations moving in a positive and productive direction: > [@Welcome to the TrainerRoad Forum!](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/t/welcome-to-the-trainerroad-forum/5/1): > > There are just a few rules. > > 1. Be excellent to each other > 2. Attack the idea, not the person > 3. Don’t break the law > 4. Keep it tidy Thanks y’all. ---
**Author:** ![Bullseye](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/trainerroad/forum/user_avatar/www.trainerroad.com/bullseye/32/135495_2.png) [@Bullseye](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/u/Bullseye)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2019, 6:57pm UTC](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/t/training-with-the-opposite-sex/15156/69 "2019-12-13T18:57:38Z")
When we were in Canada my partner nick named me “Bear Food” - you don’t have to outrun a bear, just the slowest person. (I was also afraid of bears). It was a term of endearment which kept me laughing up the worst hills. He’s twice as big as me and it’s ok that I can’t keep up. Obviously, Sonya Looney would have smashed his time to pieces regardless of size difference. …not because she’s vegan, that has nothing to do with it…🤣😂 ---
**Author:** ![Wayne](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/trainerroad/forum/user_avatar/www.trainerroad.com/wayne/32/26935_2.png) [@Wayne](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/u/Wayne)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2019, 8:03pm UTC](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/t/training-with-the-opposite-sex/15156/70 "2019-12-13T20:03:28Z")
> [@Bullseye](#): > > Possibly something that some men may not be aware of, is how vulnerable a woman can feel riding in the woods with a group of men, potentially in the dark I’m glad you said this, and this is a comment I think everyone needs to pay close attention to. It is something I was personally not super aware of for many years - I’m not a woman, I don’t treat women at rides differently than men - you’re there to ride, maybe learn something new, maybe challenge yourself, or maybe to ride me off your wheel - and there’s no shortage of women that can do exactly that. Paying close attention to different thoughts/opinions/comments can really be a positive experience. ---
**Author:** ![onemanpeloton](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/trainerroad/forum/user_avatar/www.trainerroad.com/onemanpeloton/32/69536_2.png) [@onemanpeloton](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/u/onemanpeloton)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2019, 10:02pm UTC](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/t/training-with-the-opposite-sex/15156/71 "2019-12-13T22:02:46Z")
Sorry Bryce, easy to get carried away. Didnt mean any harm. ---
**Author:** ![middleman21009](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/trainerroad/forum/user_avatar/www.trainerroad.com/middleman21009/32/14449_2.png) [@middleman21009](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/u/middleman21009)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2019, 11:41pm UTC](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/t/training-with-the-opposite-sex/15156/72 "2019-12-13T23:41:06Z")
I was thinking the same thing. But it’s is good to keep it going. ---
**Author:** ![Captain\_Doughnutman](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/trainerroad/forum/user_avatar/www.trainerroad.com/captain_doughnutman/32/7694_2.png) [@Captain\_Doughnutman](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/u/Captain_Doughnutman)\ **Post date:** [December 14, 2019, 1:06am UTC](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/t/training-with-the-opposite-sex/15156/73 "2019-12-14T01:06:15Z")
> [@anon67840561](#): > > all things being equal All things are never equal. 👍 ---
**Author:** ![route66](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/trainerroad/forum/user_avatar/www.trainerroad.com/route66/32/13551_2.png) [@route66](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/u/route66)\ **Post date:** [December 14, 2019, 2:45am UTC](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/t/training-with-the-opposite-sex/15156/74 "2019-12-14T02:45:37Z")
Sure they are. It’s just that some things are more equal than others. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Bullseye](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/trainerroad/forum/user_avatar/www.trainerroad.com/bullseye/32/135495_2.png) [@Bullseye](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/u/Bullseye)\ **Post date:** [December 14, 2019, 10:30am UTC](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/t/training-with-the-opposite-sex/15156/75 "2019-12-14T10:30:39Z")
@Wayne I think this is such a positive attitude. It’s easy to be flippent about other people’s situations. When I said “moaning” about partners not allowing them enough time on their bike…what I mean is seeking support on how to manage that situation. I’ve seen men leave rides early after an angry phone call from their partner. I don’t pretend to know about their relationships, but I am aware that everyone has something going on. So I agree we need to pay close attention to others perspectives and needs. We all need kindness ( or affectionate insults) especially when we don’t deserve it. ---
**Author:** ![anon67840561](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/919ad9/32.png) [@anon67840561](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/u/anon67840561)\ **Post date:** [December 14, 2019, 12:27pm UTC](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/t/training-with-the-opposite-sex/15156/76 "2019-12-14T12:27:43Z")
Really, another way to say this though is “just be nice to people.” Regardless of whether they are a man or a women. If this happens…I cant really see how issues would arise. Sometimes I feel like issues like gender on group rides can be overcomplicated. Thats not to try and understate the issue of female vulnerability…but really this all comes down to the fact that some people are just assholes. ---
**Author:** ![rthompson](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/trainerroad/forum/user_avatar/www.trainerroad.com/rthompson/32/7746_2.png) [@rthompson](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/u/rthompson)\ **Post date:** [December 14, 2019, 2:43pm UTC](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/t/training-with-the-opposite-sex/15156/77 "2019-12-14T14:43:36Z")
I like the way Billy Graham approached the subject. His philosophy was that no one, not even himself, was so strong as to not fall victim into temptation. Thus, he chose to never be alone with a member of the opposite sex other than his wife. If he and his secretary had to travel together, he always brought a chaperone. This is the way I have chosen to deal with the subject in my own life. How this applies in practicality is that it is ok for me to join events with members of the opposite sex when it is a group setting. However, I avoid at all costs ever being “alone” with a woman of the opposite sex other than my wife. Some will find this silly, and that is their right. But it works for me and that is all that really matters. ---
**Author:** ![anon67840561](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/919ad9/32.png) [@anon67840561](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/u/anon67840561)\ **Post date:** [December 14, 2019, 3:04pm UTC](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/t/training-with-the-opposite-sex/15156/78 "2019-12-14T15:04:50Z")
Not trying to be insulting…but I honestly can’t tell if you are serious, or if this is sarcasm… ---
**Author:** ![bsladics](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/trainerroad/forum/user_avatar/www.trainerroad.com/bsladics/32/23670_2.png) [@bsladics](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/u/bsladics)\ **Post date:** [December 14, 2019, 3:45pm UTC](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/t/training-with-the-opposite-sex/15156/79 "2019-12-14T15:45:59Z")
I don’t have much to add to the discussion except this: In response to those who say that trust in a relationship is paramount ( I agree, it is)…just remember…there is trust until there isn’t. you guys and gals might not like what Joex has to say on the subject, but he might not be too far off. IMHO ---
**Author:** ![anon67840561](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/919ad9/32.png) [@anon67840561](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/u/anon67840561)\ **Post date:** [January 16, 2020, 1:17pm UTC](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/t/training-with-the-opposite-sex/15156/80 "2020-01-16T13:17:03Z")
Of course that’s the exception. Most people hate each other lol. But again…I don’t see how this is a gender thing. ---
**Author:** ![rocourteau](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/trainerroad/forum/user_avatar/www.trainerroad.com/rocourteau/32/7746_2.png) [@rocourteau](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/u/rocourteau)\ **Post date:** [January 17, 2020, 1:56am UTC](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/t/training-with-the-opposite-sex/15156/82 "2020-01-17T01:56:46Z")
I hope it’s sarcasm, otherwise I fail to see how women could gain more presence in business management. “Sorry, we can’t go over the budget, unless you can find a chaperone”. ---
**Author:** ![anon67840561](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/919ad9/32.png) [@anon67840561](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/u/anon67840561)\ **Post date:** [January 17, 2020, 2:33am UTC](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/t/training-with-the-opposite-sex/15156/83 "2020-01-17T02:33:09Z")
Excellent point. I say this with 100% seriousness…anyone who follows the ‘I can’t be alone with a woman’ lifestyle should seriously consider the societal ramifications of their actions, and resign from any positions of power that entail making personnel decisions. ---
**Author:** ![Pasque](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/trainerroad/forum/user_avatar/www.trainerroad.com/pasque/32/47338_2.png) [@Pasque](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/u/Pasque)\ **Post date:** [January 17, 2020, 5:26pm UTC](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/t/training-with-the-opposite-sex/15156/84 "2020-01-17T17:26:58Z")
why was my first thought reading this: “I bet Peter Sagan could pull it off” 🤔 😂 ---
**Author:** ![trpnhntr](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/trainerroad/forum/user_avatar/www.trainerroad.com/trpnhntr/32/93473_2.png) [@trpnhntr](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/u/trpnhntr)\ **Post date:** [January 17, 2020, 6:20pm UTC](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/t/training-with-the-opposite-sex/15156/85 "2020-01-17T18:20:11Z")
> [@Pasque](#): > > my first thought reading this: “I bet Peter Sagan could pull it off” I think it’d be harder with a partner, although Sagan might be able to manage that as well ---
**Author:** ![Garland\_Brent](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/trainerroad/forum/user_avatar/www.trainerroad.com/garland_brent/32/17909_2.png) [@Garland\_Brent](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/u/Garland_Brent)\ **Post date:** [January 18, 2020, 1:29am UTC](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/t/training-with-the-opposite-sex/15156/86 "2020-01-18T01:29:34Z")
It’s worked for the VP of the United States. I feel like if he can manage it then so can anyone else. [Previous page](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/t/training-with-the-opposite-sex/15156.md?page=3) [Next page](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/t/training-with-the-opposite-sex/15156.md?page=5)