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I was using the power readings from a Levo for the short period I had an e bike, do they not all broadcast the power?
I’m on an old gen one Shimano Steps system that doesnt broadcast it. I bought a stages XT crank a couple of years ago (Still got it @JoPage) hoping it would fit but the pod fouled on the motor. Up until now HR has done a reasonable job however I’m riding the eMTB more and more on endurance days to get a good ride in without the fatigue so a pair of Assiomas that I can also use on the gravel bike seem like a reasonable shout.
Sorry for the super tangent when you are focused on the current release, but this seems awesome. And if you get to the point of generating individual workouts, I would love it if the user could tailor it. For example, I get on the bike at 5:00am and my 52 year old body is not yet awake. I need a good 20min warmup. Would be great if I could specify that all my workouts get this. Secondly, I hate workouts where the watts are going up or down by 3w every couple of minutes. I would rather you give me one 10 minute block at X watts. Once again, would be great to be able to steer the preferences for your workouts.
I do! I thought it had died a few weeks back (turned out to be a dodgy new battery) and was really rather gutted as getting a 165 mm replacement arm is impossible now Stages are bust! Precision don’t do one to fit those cranks. I costed a full drivechain+crank replacement with SRAM XX but luckily for my wallet, another new battery worked ![]()
FYI, Giant’s acquisition & reboot of Stages is complete. They’re back up and running.
The AI will take that fatigue/fitness/freshness into account way better for your training after the race.
One thing i like to do is put a workout on the calendar that I know I can do (like one that I select by hand, rather than an AI workout). Then I look at the predicted difficulty for it and drag it forward one day at a time and recheck. You can see it usually gets easier as you recover, then there’s an inflection point where they start to get harder because you’re losing fitness.
It’s a cool side effect of the predictions. I think it could be used to help optimize peaking in the future, but honestly you could play with it and figure it out yourself, too.
Triathlon will get this update for cycling, but there aren’t any new updates for running or swimming.
TrainNow will uses the same AI to pick your workout.
We want to remove the train now page and just have it be on your calendar if you don’t have a plan; or some easy way to add it there.
Kind of unify everything on the calendar.
Even though I manually set my training FTP, I do track my AI FTP detections as a way to track my fitness. Just curious, will the new AI FTP detection be comparable to the old one for tracking purposes or will there be a discontinuity in the chart I’m keeping?
It most cases they are pretty close; if they aren’t super close I think it’s an improvement. But for some people their FTP might be a little higher than usual.
Any chance this update will tell you why it’s making a change to your plan or will that perhaps come in the conversational AI update? Been pushing my plan a bit with the Festive 500 and it’s scaling my workouts WAY back after just adding some low endurance/recovery to the end of prescribed workouts.
Ideally would have had this before the 500 so I could see how it could potentially impact my future FTP.
At some point will there be like a singular new post, email, article, podcast, whatever, just summarizing all the new changes? Getting hit from all directions on announcements of changes in different formats, or announcements of upcoming changes not yet specified, is becoming pretty hard to follow for someone who doesn’t have the time to sort through ever notification to determine what’s redundant and what isn’t. What’s an actual announcement vs an announcement of an upcoming announcement.
I’d rather just wait until everything is released and then get a single summary telling me what’s new, what it does, how it’ll impact me, and how to manage it.
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I can see myself spending waaaay too much time with this shiny new toy!
Might have to limit my amusing myself with this to my recovery days.
Thank you so much for taking the time here to share with us! ![]()
Will there be any adjustments to Red light green light? I have been working with a coach and through that period I have received a slew of yellow and red days. Obviously I ignored them and kept training. But would love to move back to TR exclusively, but I have discovered I respond well to volume.
Upcoming podcast should do it based on @Nate_Pearson’s comments. Assuming they will also post new blog support content on the website with the official release.
In the Beta, I’ve been experimenting with something like that in a self-planned block… I’m 2 weeks out from a cycling climbing trip, and I’ve been slightly adjusting this current week of intervals and next week’s taper to see the effect on the Predicted Difficulty %s of a “dummy” workout (a pinned sweet spot w/o that’s representative of the types of efforts I’m training for) that I’ve temporarily placed on the 2nd day of my trip.
As a result, I’ve now added an extra AI endurance w/o to this week and moved my final AI sweet spot intervals w/o out one day, which is allowing the AI to offer me a longer/harder workout in this slot vs. my previous plan. As I wrote above, this is all in an otherwise self-planned block (a sweet spot progression). It’s excellent how useful and applicable the various new capabilities still are to someone like me who plans some of their own blocks.
TBH, I think I’ll be doing less of that self-planning now based on what I’ve seen, but when I do choose to self plan, I can still take advantage of most (if not all) the AI features to make the self-planning exercise both much easier (faster) and with better informed w/o selection. I’m typically quite a demanding punter😆, but from the little time I’ve played with this I’m super impressed. ![]()
NB I’ve been careful not to discuss anything here that’s not already been revealed in the past few days’ posts!
I find it really awesome that TR team and Nate personally answered tons of questions in this thread regarding new functionality prior to the launch of the new feature.
I personally appreciate adding HR data to AI estimation, long rides duration auto-suggestions and ability to tune zones (I found my Threshold zone to be too tough sometimes compared to VO2max and sweet-spot, so would be great to take some experiments in tuning it).
Thanks again!
I get all of the hype and excitement about the update. I’m looking forward to it.
Will the update just automatically be there one morning? (I use the app on iPad).
Or will I need to download an updated version of the app? Toggle anything to ‘opt in’ to anything?
Have I missed that through any of the number of posts already made?
I’ve been a suscriber to TR since 2014 and have used it to give me some good sucess (much more than I could have achieved without it)
However I find myself moving away from metric’s in the last few years and find myself asking the question about this latest planned release.
“it’s obviously trained on millions of rides from TR users and will use this dataset, with a sprinkling of magic sauce, to create a training plan with forecast FTP.”
However everybody’s genetics, sports history, lifestyle, is different, therefore how accurate can it really be.
No critising at all (it may be the best AI training tool available when released) but how individually tailored will it really be?