You’re right that you don’t need to do that.
What plan are you on?
Is it pinned?
My plan is road, increasing FTP, balanced. The ramp test scheduled, has been put into my calendar as a workout on a Tuesday. Seems a little unusual, when the AI FTP is scheduled to update on the Saturday. I’m wondering if there is a good reason for it?
@pbase The workout doesn’t seem to be ‘pinned’?
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Any chance you had some sort of old plan that you deleted and this was left behind? Does it have the stars in the corner saying it’s ai?
Even before this update almost all plans would sub in a detection for a ramp test so definitely something weird going on if it’s throwing one in now.
Screenshot of the coming week?
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Yeah you might have it.
There used to be an option to swap in ai detection for ramp, but pretty sure that’s gone. Custom plans wouldn’t put them in.
I’d delete it tbh. Or if you think it is relevant to your plan switch it to the relevant workout type.
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Ah thanks, you are correct the workout doesn’t have the stars… I didn’t have an account pre ai, so it can’t be a leftover. I wonder why it ended up in the calendar.
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Weird. Delete as noted above. Maybe can hurt to send a note to support in case there is a weird bug.
Deleting may technically change some up coming workouts since overall load for the given time will change but it should just be putting things to how they would have been without that there.
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Ok thanks for the pic. Now it gets more confusing but at least gives us some clues
The calendar logo in the corner does mean that this was part of a plan.
I can see it not having the stars if it’s not meant to be changed even without it being pinned due to it being a test. Still the question of course of why is it there to begin with.
Is this plan a legacy plan by chance? I could see that still maybe putting something in. Or was this a plan builder plan.
When you started recently did you have to do a ramp test or did it have enough data to do an ftp detection?
I’d shoot that screenshot to support.
Cheers for the replies, I have submitted a support ticket with a screeshot. Since starting an account I have always used AI FTP detection and allowed the model to run. I had a plan builder plan leading up to an event in October last year, then used train now for a while, before adding this plan at the beginning of this year. I am seven weeks into the plan and the week I’m questioning is week nine.
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Gotcha I thought when you said since the AI you meant in the last few months. Did wonder if you meant the past few years of aiftp being a thing.
Let us know what they figure out when they get back to you.
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Hi,
I was embarrassed by AI FTP for the first time yesterday. I completed a VO2max workout, and rated it as Very hard (the system expected Hard for 60% and Very Hard for 40%, approx.). This single post workout survey reduced the predicted AI FTP by 10W, and it modified the next workouts to be of a lower level than the one I just completed 
Changing the survey response to Hard restored the AI FTP prediction and the next workout levels.
I am following TR plans from October, so it has a good amount of data about me. I think the system overreacts to a single post workout survey. What do you think?
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Out of the two predicted FTPs - the old one that is 10w higher and the new lower one - which do you think is the most realistic?
I’m finding the predicted FTPs to be consistently optimistic over the last few months.
I have been making what I consider good gains so I’m happy - but I tend to see this same thing happening to me - a couple of honest RPE responses is all it needs to give it a reality check.
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Actually, it isn’t the first thing I noticed (and I think the 10W higher predicted FTP is optimistic, anyway). But I was surprised by the “easier” workouts planned in the next weeks. I succeeded with this last one, so we are doing easier ones then?! I remember back then the system slowed the progression when you answered Very Hard to a survey. But you had to fail a workout for it to reduce the level.
I must clarify that I am following a “Building Endurance” plan, which plans Threshold and VO2max on the high intervals day. Maybe the system consciouly wants to keep my RPE not too high on these workouts, because their goal here is not to improve VO2max?
If you click on the “easier” workout and scroll down to the power records graph, is the workout pulling up your 6week NP graph at all?
If you create a custom filter for the day you did the previous “harder” workout of the same type so you can directly compare the power profile, is it easier across all time periods?
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Interesting!
No it becomes at best equal (or 2W higher than the record around 5min), otherwise lower.
Just want to say thank you to you and anyone else sharing this tip. It’s been super helpful for me!
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Ignoring the workout level number, it looks like it’s chosen a very similar workout for you to do. This makes sense as it is trying to balance your workouts around them being hard, not very hard. And you said you rated the last one as very hard.
So hopefully, your fitness has increase and the RPE comes down.
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The engineers have said that it looks like it was a software error not to do with AI, just a good old fashioned software glitch.
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Ok, thanks for the answers, IAppreciate 