For reference, just one of their many plans:
A quick skim through their plans section and you can see the many tri options. And here is their tri plan selection vid.
Not to mention that they have done several tri focused and Successful Athlete podcasts talking to TR users that applied the plans above to get to various big ticket tris, including Ironman Worlds in Kona.
They doā¦
its VERY primitiveā¦
but worksā¦
Thanks for that Chad. Iām on my phone and when I click on one of the run/swim workouts nothing loads. Iāll be interested to see these workouts in much greater detail on my PC.
As of now, the Run / Swim stuff is pure text in the Week Descriptions with simple placeholders for the workouts on the calendar. As mentioned, is primitive compared to the integrated cycling workouts, but it is all there for use and been applied by many tri athletes.
I see.
I guess āprimitiveā it is optimal adjective to use to describe the triathlon plans. I stand by my original point that TR is best in class for cycling but there are better options for someone who wants a āfull suiteā of triathlon plans. Yes I admit I shouldnāt be suggesting users go elsewhere. I was just trying to be constructive for the sake of the post.
Just to keep it on the original topic - yes please devote more time to other features to stay best in class for cycling.
Trying to somewhat steer this into the development area without drilling too deep into the triathlon instance:
I think TR focuses on whatās quantifiable, both in terms of what moves the needle most for their athletes and in terms of of the instance of training plans. I think Tri is hard for TR, because running power isnāt even agreed upon by science, and swimming effectively has no corollary. Trainerroad has data-based cycling plans, RPE based running plans scaled to the distance of race youāre training for, and standard swim sets. Triathlon plans just arenāt an are where they canāt clearly find a niche to be different. As a result of that instance, I think they donāt pursue it hard because they (IMO) donāt see a clear path to added value.
Start applying a data-driven mindset to development, and you get a focus on large swath movements at the expense of QOL improvements sitting there. Is a QOL improvement good? Yes, but is it good enough to pull dev time away from something that will tangibly bring in new users / keep existing ones? Thereās a balance.
Looking forward to AT and outside workout recognition (even though not sure if Xert has it solved in a better way). So kudos for that!
But on the other hand AT seems to drown all resources like a black hole and at the same time this forum has so many feature requests that have been put to the team for consideration yet so rare we see progress of any.
With swim/run import itās so frustrating as Nate has a simple prototype working for years/many monthā¦with some final push missing to have some MVP for us to use 
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This stagnation is especially frustrating if you look at the astonishing site one single programmer has done in that time with intervals.icu ā¦
I totally agree that the amount of resources devoted to QOL improvements / smaller features is a balance, but the current model seems to be close to zero. Which I think is the wrong balance point 
This has happened a lot over the years, usually with an entire rewrite of the code base dragging on forever and completely stagnating the product. Itās done with the caveat that theyāll be able to implement features quicker in the future, but it doesnāt seem to happen that way (maybe the new features would come about even slower?)
I was going to mention this as well - - itās been working for years behind the scenes which makes it even more frustrating.
Also agree with this one! And he doesnāt have the plethora of subscription based users behind him.
Man, good thing everyone doesnāt just throw their hands up and quit because of this or we wouldnāt be able to upload our activities anywhere! 
Iām not talking solely about uploading activities, Iām talking about the way the plans are actually structured and built. Itās a bit outside of the scope of this discussion but it takes only a pretty cursory glance to look at the plans and understand the cycling side is extremely science and metrics based and the other two are not.
100% this.
It will take years of sustained and focused development for AT to become what Nate has described the goal to be. Bugs still need to be fixed and other improvements still need to be made in the meantime.
General quality of life improvements canāt be ignored.
I donāt think telling users to go somewhere else is in opposition to the forum guidelines. Quite literally TR has said multi sport plans are not their priority. If someone wants that as the priority of their coach/plan, users should look to change service providers.
Triathlon may not be the priority (CLEARLY thatās ATā¦), but Triathlon plans have been part of TR almost since the beginning, like for at least 7-9 years. They started with the Weekly Notes being what was referenced for the Swim and Run workouts. Then after the Calendar came about the Swim and Run workouts were (eventually) loaded into the calendar as separate activities to manually check offā¦like 3-4 years ago? Of course, since a lot of people use other plans for Swim and Run and also because the Swim and Run activities werenāt uploaded anyway there was a call to be able to just add the Cycling portion of the plans without having to go through and delete all the extra Swim and Run activities (this still hasnāt happened eitherā¦). When Plan Builder came about you were able to set your A/B/C events as Triathlons and have Plan Builder adapt to your schedule. AT even loosely works with the Swim and Run workouts right now. So itās not like those asking for a little bit of Tri love are asking for huge ideas built from the ground upāmost of itās already there (including activity uploads, just behind the scenes).
They even used to plug athletes who excelled using their plansā¦
Youāre talking about rebuilding plans, but the biggest ask from the 3+ year old request thread is just to upload the activities and a bonus feature of having it check off a box automatically. 
Certainly rebuilding the plans is a larger undertaking, but going back to the intervals.icu end of things all that data ācanā be there if the will is there, which of course it isnāt unfortunately.
I mean, I feel like weāre debating the details. My answer for everything is basically: yes. Yes, I think the calendar should support imported workouts. Yes, I think the triathlon plans should be improved. Yes, I understand that the scope of these two things are different.
I mean, youāre not wrong that people want their workouts to be imported. I donāt disagree that itās not world changing it doesnāt exists, but itās also sort of a pretty standard cost of entry for a sports coaching system that displays the work youāve done. I think itās simultaneously not critical but also something people point to and are like, āhey, nearly a DECADE later, can you please show all our work in one place?ā TrainerRoad has triathlon plans, itās a not unreasonable request. I donāt feel compelled to dive deeper than that; I think itās pretty self apparent what the request is. If you donāt see value In it, thatās fine. Others do.
Oh, of course thereās value in expanding on whatās thereāno debate. The low hanging fruit is just the activity uploads, then extra stuff can be added from there (in the ideal world).
Your scenario (someone emphasizing that despite the presence of tri plans, TR is more devoted to cycling at this time) is quite different from what I read in the post to which I replied. Iām quoting it below, along with my take on it to explain why I said what I said.
This reads to me like a cyclist that believes TR is ONLY connected to cycling and he wants to keep it that way, in order to preserve TRās valuable time and efforts for advancement of cycling features. Itās like he is saying that there is nothing there for them, and they should go else where vs asking for tri related features in TR. That is why I made my comment above.
It is somewhat emphasized since he was apparently unaware of the existence of the tri plans that they have offered for many years. That leads to his āgo somewhere elseā comment being rather negative per my reading.
Iāve said it before and Iāll say it again; itās the little things that make using the product easier that makes me a more satisfied customer. These constant big releases where other areas (especially bug fixes) get shelved, or sometimes never even get considered, is my biggest frustration with TR.
I took @Robās comment to be an opinion that TR isnāt currently / hasnāt for a while (outside perception) expending resources to add features / functionality targeted at the Triathlon market - except as it relates to AT & cycling workouts. And therefore Triathlon focused athletes should look for alternatives that are focused on / expending resources on the needs of triathletes. Long way of signing I donāt think there was anything āwrongā with his post.
