# The Ironman Training 2020 Thread **URL:** \ **Category:** Training\ **Tags:** triathlon\ **Created:** [August 31, 2019, 8:46pm UTC](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/t/the-ironman-training-2020-thread/20354 "2019-08-31T20:46:13Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 150
**Author:** ![Mitch54321](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/trainerroad/forum/user_avatar/www.trainerroad.com/mitch54321/32/7757_2.png) [@Mitch54321](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/u/Mitch54321)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2020, 5:16pm UTC](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/t/the-ironman-training-2020-thread/20354/3002 "2020-09-14T17:16:25Z")
Whats the best way to do longer intervals like Elephant +2? In the TT position (lowering the %) or seated? I’ve been doing all my longer intervals (15mins +) in the TT position and the 2-3min intervals seated. Presume everything should be done in TT position when close to a race? Or is reducing FTP not ideal? ---
**Author:** ![Joelrivera](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/trainerroad/forum/user_avatar/www.trainerroad.com/joelrivera/32/145557_2.png) [@Joelrivera](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/u/Joelrivera)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2020, 5:24pm UTC](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/t/the-ironman-training-2020-thread/20354/3003 "2020-09-14T17:24:29Z")
> [@JoeX](#): > > There seems to be a bit of variety when it comes to holding back on the bike leg 85%, 100% FTP as your maximum - some people allow for much bigger surges when overtaking for example. I think its very individual. I personally like to have a target power so i know what i need to chase on the ride. ---
**Author:** ![JoeX](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/trainerroad/forum/user_avatar/www.trainerroad.com/joex/32/6640_2.png) [@JoeX](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/u/JoeX)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2020, 5:41pm UTC](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/t/the-ironman-training-2020-thread/20354/3004 "2020-09-14T17:41:45Z")
> [@Mitch54321](#): > > Presume everything should be done in TT position when close to a race? Ideally perhaps. I mix them up as I feel like it. Right now Ive been on the TT for 12 months so aero often seems easier, or at least more comfortable. Ill do VO2 upright for the most part now, but earlier in the year Id mix them too; the first interval upright, the second in aero, or the first few minutes of a threshold interval in aero the rest upright. The vast majority of benefit is in doing the session at all, fuelling and recovering appropriately. The particular position or intensity should suit you forst and foremost, and if that means 100% in aero, so much the better. ---
**Author:** ![kimi](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/trainerroad/forum/user_avatar/www.trainerroad.com/kimi/32/51015_2.png) [@kimi](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/u/kimi)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2020, 6:22pm UTC](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/t/the-ironman-training-2020-thread/20354/3005 "2020-09-14T18:22:10Z")
Mm, something I could try as well. I checked and and mostly VO2max I bail quite often and truggle sometimes with threshold workouts 😕 Sometimes I can already feel at warmup that it’s not going to be my day. ---
**Author:** ![Joelrivera](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/trainerroad/forum/user_avatar/www.trainerroad.com/joelrivera/32/145557_2.png) [@Joelrivera](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/u/Joelrivera)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2020, 6:27pm UTC](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/t/the-ironman-training-2020-thread/20354/3006 "2020-09-14T18:27:57Z")
> [@kimi](#): > > Sometimes I can already feel at warmup that it’s not going to be my day Oh boy. Dont judge a wo based on the wu… You would be surprised what you can do after a good wu. You owe it to yourself! Dont feel negative the first 15 minutes of a ride…otherwise you might go into the wrong mentality… I bet you would not bail from an 800 at the track because you didn’t felt it during wu! ---
**Author:** ![wyku](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/trainerroad/forum/user_avatar/www.trainerroad.com/wyku/32/7725_2.png) [@wyku](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/u/wyku)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2020, 6:58pm UTC](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/t/the-ironman-training-2020-thread/20354/3007 "2020-09-14T18:58:03Z")
> [@Joelrivera](#): > > Oh boy. Dont judge a wo based on the wu… > You would be surprised what you can do after a good wu. Agreed–sometimes the first interval is what really wakes things up so the w/u shouldn’t be used as the judge for how the workout is going to go. If you find yourself able to complete the first interval and think it was tough, give yourself the rest interval and try the second without adjusting anything and see how it goes–sometimes getting that first one out of the way will feel the hardest. Of course, sometimes it’s just not your day and maybe the first interval does end up not going well and you’d then adjust from there. ---
**Author:** ![Gnome](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/trainerroad/forum/user_avatar/www.trainerroad.com/gnome/32/139448_2.png) [@Gnome](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/u/Gnome)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2020, 7:05pm UTC](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/t/the-ironman-training-2020-thread/20354/3008 "2020-09-14T19:05:05Z")
Decisions, decisions… Early entry for Placid just opened up. Timing wise, seems like the last option to try to KQ and be ready to compete 3months later in Kona. Already scheduled for Tulsa, and if I don’t KQ there I would want to try once more but 8 weeks between two Ironmans sounds pretty rough. ---
**Author:** ![Joelrivera](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/trainerroad/forum/user_avatar/www.trainerroad.com/joelrivera/32/145557_2.png) [@Joelrivera](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/u/Joelrivera)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2020, 7:08pm UTC](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/t/the-ironman-training-2020-thread/20354/3009 "2020-09-14T19:08:20Z")
I mean… it will take at least 2 weeks to recover properly after a Kona effort. That give you 4 weeks to tune things up 2 weeks to taper and repeat. Sounds mentally hard. ---
**Author:** ![Gnome](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/trainerroad/forum/user_avatar/www.trainerroad.com/gnome/32/139448_2.png) [@Gnome](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/u/Gnome)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2020, 7:10pm UTC](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/t/the-ironman-training-2020-thread/20354/3010 "2020-09-14T19:10:16Z")
> Sounds mentally hard. Being single helps 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Joelrivera](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/trainerroad/forum/user_avatar/www.trainerroad.com/joelrivera/32/145557_2.png) [@Joelrivera](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/u/Joelrivera)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2020, 7:18pm UTC](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/t/the-ironman-training-2020-thread/20354/3011 "2020-09-14T19:18:46Z")
> [@Gnome](#): > > Being single helps 😃 I have come to the realization that unless you get married with a person who also do endurance sports, it will be VERY VERY VERY hard to train for an IM, border line impossible. ---
**Author:** ![wyku](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/trainerroad/forum/user_avatar/www.trainerroad.com/wyku/32/7725_2.png) [@wyku](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/u/wyku)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2020, 7:18pm UTC](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/t/the-ironman-training-2020-thread/20354/3012 "2020-09-14T19:18:47Z")
Would that be for Kona 2021? Do we know if there will actually be spots for that race with everyone being deferred from this year? It will be interesting to see how they handle that end of things…2-day Kona! 😂 ---
**Author:** ![Joelrivera](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/trainerroad/forum/user_avatar/www.trainerroad.com/joelrivera/32/145557_2.png) [@Joelrivera](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/u/Joelrivera)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2020, 7:20pm UTC](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/t/the-ironman-training-2020-thread/20354/3013 "2020-09-14T19:20:24Z")
I think for this reason, Boston Marathon decided not to do deferrals. You can reapply with your time, but you will be put against people who ran after the window closed last year. ---
**Author:** ![wyku](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/trainerroad/forum/user_avatar/www.trainerroad.com/wyku/32/7725_2.png) [@wyku](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/u/wyku)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2020, 7:22pm UTC](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/t/the-ironman-training-2020-thread/20354/3014 "2020-09-14T19:22:14Z")
Boston gave refunds though, right? That’s a 4-letter word for Ironman… 😂 It seems like that would be a good way to go about it so as not to keep shifting things indefinitely trying to get back on track with qualifications. ---
**Author:** ![JoeX](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/trainerroad/forum/user_avatar/www.trainerroad.com/joex/32/6640_2.png) [@JoeX](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/u/JoeX)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2020, 7:24pm UTC](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/t/the-ironman-training-2020-thread/20354/3015 "2020-09-14T19:24:01Z")
> [@Joelrivera](#): > > it will be VERY VERY VERY hard to train for an IM, border line impossible. Time to roll this out 😉 ![image](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/trainerroad/original/3X/d/5/d5fd6c989fbeb65c39b99fead0197327d03d0dd5.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![Joelrivera](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/trainerroad/forum/user_avatar/www.trainerroad.com/joelrivera/32/145557_2.png) [@Joelrivera](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/u/Joelrivera)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2020, 7:24pm UTC](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/t/the-ironman-training-2020-thread/20354/3016 "2020-09-14T19:24:38Z")
Yes they did. They gave people the option to pay $50 for the “privilege” of suffering through a non race 26.2 mile run to get a fucking tshirt. I did also got a sticker, a gel, blocks, and a protein shake. Good value! 😂 ---
**Author:** ![Gnome](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/trainerroad/forum/user_avatar/www.trainerroad.com/gnome/32/139448_2.png) [@Gnome](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/u/Gnome)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2020, 7:25pm UTC](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/t/the-ironman-training-2020-thread/20354/3017 "2020-09-14T19:25:11Z")
So far both races have slots but they haven’t said how many. There weren’t very many 2020 races to even get people qualified so it probably wont be too bad. But I’m just dreaming here. ---
**Author:** ![wyku](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/trainerroad/forum/user_avatar/www.trainerroad.com/wyku/32/7725_2.png) [@wyku](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/u/wyku)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2020, 7:27pm UTC](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/t/the-ironman-training-2020-thread/20354/3018 "2020-09-14T19:27:45Z")
Ahh, yeah I guess there’s quite a few open slots from all the races that didn’t happen this spring/fall. ETA: Looks like IM Tallinn had 60 slots, up from their original 40? I’m not sure if that’s actual or predicted. [https://www.coachcox.co.uk/2020/09/08/ironman-tallinn-2020-age-group-results-and-kona-qualification/](https://www.coachcox.co.uk/2020/09/08/ironman-tallinn-2020-age-group-results-and-kona-qualification/) ---
**Author:** ![Alen](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/trainerroad/forum/user_avatar/www.trainerroad.com/alen/32/4820_2.png) [@Alen](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/u/Alen)\ **Post date:** [September 15, 2020, 5:08am UTC](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/t/the-ironman-training-2020-thread/20354/3019 "2020-09-15T05:08:11Z")
> [@steclark](#): > > I am now 6 days out from my first full Ironman, which will be a self organized 140.6 (Will have a small support team). I think I’ve got all the logistics figured out but I have a few concerns: > > 1. Right now, the weather for race days ia high of 66 F. Im on U.S East coast, so that would make it the coldest day of the year. I’ve got a wetsuit and the water temp will be ok, the run will be great, but I’m worried about being cold on the bike. Any tips for managing this? If I’m starting on the bike around 8am, it could be lower than 60 when I start. > > 2. I’ve been following the plan builder for a high volume full IM. I have mostly stuck to it, but had to bail on Sonora last Monday (first workout I’ve bailed in a long time). Looking at the week before the IM, I see Adams on Tuesday which looks manageable, but Wright Peak -2 on Thursday. Why the hell is there a 2 hr workout with 90 min of sweet spot on the calendar 2 days before race day? Should I even attempt this? Last year at IMAZ, water temp was 63F air temp at start was 62f with high of 72 but 60’s throughout the bike course. Like you I was concerned about being cold and finally decided that it’s one day and I can absorb the discomfort. Just went with my tri suit. The first hour on the bike my feet and hands were a little cold but I never felt cold after that. ---
**Author:** ![TG333](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/trainerroad/forum/user_avatar/www.trainerroad.com/tg333/32/19333_2.png) [@TG333](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/u/TG333)\ **Post date:** [September 15, 2020, 5:25am UTC](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/t/the-ironman-training-2020-thread/20354/3020 "2020-09-15T05:25:35Z")
Fwiw Gdynia stuck with their initial 30 for 70.3 worlds. Apparently the deferrals from the cancellation in 20 took the slots of cancelled qualifier races. ---
**Author:** ![JoeX](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/trainerroad/forum/user_avatar/www.trainerroad.com/joex/32/6640_2.png) [@JoeX](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/u/JoeX)\ **Post date:** [September 15, 2020, 7:51am UTC](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/t/the-ironman-training-2020-thread/20354/3021 "2020-09-15T07:51:14Z")
Details of the Ironman Virtual Kona if anyone else wants to take part 😀 you know you want to 😉 Ill be doing the 17h SBR, October 10th. Probably on the Rouvy bike course for 08:30-08:45 GMT+1 _17-Hour IRONMAN VR27 Kona Challenger Division (Swim-Bike-Run)_ _140.6 miles. 17 hours. Get ready to go the full distance in Kona from wherever you are. Swim 3.86 km (2.4 mi), ride 180.25 km (112 mi) outdoors or on the IRONMAN World Championship course on ROUVY, and run 42.2 km (26.2 mi) outdoors in three sessions between Friday, October 9 at 12:00 am GMT and Sunday, October 11 at 11:59 pm GMT_ No surprises there. There is a 17-hour run/bike/run also, same timescales. There is also the 3 day format, swim or run: _140.6 miles. 3 days. It’s time to go the full distance in Kona from wherever you are. Swim OR run 3.86 km (2.4 mi), ride 180.25 km (112 mi), and run 42.2 km (26.2 mi) in an unlimited number of sessions between Friday, October 9 at 12:00 am GMT and Sunday, October 11 at 11:59 pm GMT_ And swim or run over 7 days: _140.6 miles. 7 days. It’s time to go the full distance in Kona from wherever you are. Swim OR run 3.86 km (2.4 mi), ride 180.25 km (112 mi), and run 42.2 km (26.2 mi) in an unlimited number of sessions between Monday, October 5 at 12:00 am GMT and Sunday, October 11 at 11:59 pm GMT_ [Previous page](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/t/the-ironman-training-2020-thread/20354.md?page=149) [Next page](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/t/the-ironman-training-2020-thread/20354.md?page=151)