# Skin suit recommendations for Crits **URL:** \ **Category:** Equipment\ **Tags:** clothing\ **Created:** [December 8, 2018, 2:50am UTC](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/t/skin-suit-recommendations-for-crits/7448 "2018-12-08T02:50:28Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Sopiarz3](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/trainerroad/forum/user_avatar/www.trainerroad.com/sopiarz3/32/12908_2.png) [@Sopiarz3](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/u/Sopiarz3)\ **Post date:** [December 8, 2018, 2:50am UTC](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/t/skin-suit-recommendations-for-crits/7448/1 "2018-12-08T02:50:29Z")
I listened to the previous podcast on aero gains and there seems to be a consensus with most people in the industry that the one of the best aero gains come from a skin suit. What are some recommendations for skin suits that don’t leave our wallets empty buy provide an advantage over a two piece? ---
**Author:** ![KorbenDallas](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/trainerroad/forum/user_avatar/www.trainerroad.com/korbendallas/32/86114_2.png) [@KorbenDallas](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/u/KorbenDallas)\ **Post date:** [December 8, 2018, 1:13pm UTC](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/t/skin-suit-recommendations-for-crits/7448/2 "2018-12-08T13:13:42Z")
I’d recommend a road speed suit (with a couple small pockets in back) vs. a TT speed suit that doesn’t have pockets. IIRC Castelli was one of the first to come out with their San Remo suit. Others have followed and now most manufacturers make a road speed suit that is designed very very similarly to the San Remo. Basically you can use it in crits, road and even the ITT w/o much aero penalty compared to one w/o pockets. Some manufacturers I’ve tried AND recommend: [https://www.elielcycling.com/collections/mens-speedsuits/products/mens-santa-ana-road-suit](https://www.elielcycling.com/collections/mens-speedsuits/products/mens-santa-ana-road-suit) > **[PRO Aero Speedsuit / Short Sleeve + Pocket (UCI Legal)](https://www.shop-velotec.cc/products/short-sleeve-pro-aero-speedsuit-with-pocket)** > > Aerodynamic S/S speed suit recommended for track and road. It is designed in order to maximize aerodynamics in the time trial position. It has a compression fit combined with specific materials that improves aerodynamics. > KEY... [https://www.castelli-cycling.com/us/men/tops/speed-suits/p/451800018P-010](https://www.castelli-cycling.com/us/men/tops/speed-suits/p/451800018P-010) [https://eu.cuore.ch/eu/en/mens/cycling/suits](https://eu.cuore.ch/eu/en/mens/cycling/suits) And finally Ale. They made one as well but, I don’t see a current link. Only tri suits, but, I’d highly recommend them as well if they still make one. Others that friends have used and like: Vermarc, Louis Garneau, Champion Systems ---
**Author:** ![Jens\_Rasmussen](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/trainerroad/forum/user_avatar/www.trainerroad.com/jens_rasmussen/32/8301_2.png) [@Jens\_Rasmussen](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/u/Jens_Rasmussen)\ **Post date:** [January 10, 2019, 10:13am UTC](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/t/skin-suit-recommendations-for-crits/7448/3 "2019-01-10T10:13:20Z")
I am getting a bit confused as a consumer. What is the difference between Skin suit and a Speed Suit? ---
**Author:** ![AndyGajda](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/trainerroad/forum/user_avatar/www.trainerroad.com/andygajda/32/1052_2.png) [@AndyGajda](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/u/AndyGajda)\ **Post date:** [January 10, 2019, 10:32am UTC](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/t/skin-suit-recommendations-for-crits/7448/4 "2019-01-10T10:32:20Z")
A skin suit is an all in one aero suit, typically used in TT’s. It will be as aero as possible so no pockets on the back. You could think of a speed suit as a pair of aero bibs and an aero jersey stitched together. It’ll have pockets on the back like a jersey. While the differences will be marginal, a proper skin suit will be a bit faster. ---
**Author:** ![KorbenDallas](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/trainerroad/forum/user_avatar/www.trainerroad.com/korbendallas/32/86114_2.png) [@KorbenDallas](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/u/KorbenDallas)\ **Post date:** [January 10, 2019, 1:33pm UTC](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/t/skin-suit-recommendations-for-crits/7448/5 "2019-01-10T13:33:01Z")
Honestly, I’ve seen skin and speed be used alternately for the same thing so as of 2019 there is no rule. Do you want pockets in the back or no pockets is the only thing I look for now. For straight TT’s I look for the products with no pockets. For road, crit, cross, gravel I look for pockets. Generally the skin/speed suits with pockets will have the word “road” somewhere in the title. Still read the description and verify with pictures. ---
**Author:** ![osmondcreative](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/trainerroad/forum/user_avatar/www.trainerroad.com/osmondcreative/32/5844_2.png) [@osmondcreative](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/u/osmondcreative)\ **Post date:** [January 10, 2019, 1:39pm UTC](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/t/skin-suit-recommendations-for-crits/7448/6 "2019-01-10T13:39:29Z")
I wanna get one too! But my thought is how can I go to the bathroom with them! Ha ha ha (not a pro, def not peeing in my pants!) I think the velotec is a good starting point, imma get one of that, plus I don’t think paying $3-500 for my first one is the right moves. ---
**Author:** ![KorbenDallas](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/trainerroad/forum/user_avatar/www.trainerroad.com/korbendallas/32/86114_2.png) [@KorbenDallas](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/u/KorbenDallas)\ **Post date:** [January 10, 2019, 2:46pm UTC](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/t/skin-suit-recommendations-for-crits/7448/7 "2019-01-10T14:46:19Z")
> [@osmondcreative](#): > > But my thought is how can I go to the bathroom with them! Ha ha ha (not a pro, def not peeing in my pants!) The road suits are really easy in this regard. So the San Remo type suits. True TT skinsuits are a different story. ---
**Author:** ![Grasschopper](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/trainerroad/forum/user_avatar/www.trainerroad.com/grasschopper/32/1629_2.png) [@Grasschopper](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/u/Grasschopper)\ **Post date:** [January 10, 2019, 3:17pm UTC](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/t/skin-suit-recommendations-for-crits/7448/8 "2019-01-10T15:17:24Z")
For the women out there…I bought my partner the Eliel speed suit for Christmas and it seems very nice. [https://www.elielcycling.com/collections/womens-speedsuits/products/womens-mavericks-aero-speedsuit-black-fuchsia](https://www.elielcycling.com/collections/womens-speedsuits/products/womens-mavericks-aero-speedsuit-black-fuchsia) ---
**Author:** ![Sopiarz3](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/trainerroad/forum/user_avatar/www.trainerroad.com/sopiarz3/32/12908_2.png) [@Sopiarz3](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/u/Sopiarz3)\ **Post date:** [January 19, 2019, 8:26pm UTC](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/t/skin-suit-recommendations-for-crits/7448/9 "2019-01-19T20:26:49Z")
@KorbenDallas how is the chamois on the Eliel? Say compared to the Castelli? I’ve had a pair of Castelli bibs and i didn’t like the chamois in those. Then i got Cuore bibs and I don’t see myself buying another brand of bibs in the future. ---
**Author:** ![stevious](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/trainerroad/forum/user_avatar/www.trainerroad.com/stevious/32/3159_2.png) [@stevious](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/u/stevious)\ **Post date:** [January 19, 2019, 8:31pm UTC](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/t/skin-suit-recommendations-for-crits/7448/10 "2019-01-19T20:31:21Z")
Worn a pockety-skinsuit for a few years and going for a pee is no problem at all. I can confirm, however that if Tom Dumoulin had been wearing a skinsuit _that_ day he would have lost a bit more time. ---
**Author:** ![berto2cj](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/trainerroad/forum/user_avatar/www.trainerroad.com/berto2cj/32/4413_2.png) [@berto2cj](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/u/berto2cj)\ **Post date:** [January 19, 2019, 9:13pm UTC](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/t/skin-suit-recommendations-for-crits/7448/11 "2019-01-19T21:13:27Z")
I have a bunch from Champion system- their speedsuits are normally rear zipper and aimed for Tt. They specifically have a crit skinsuit and a number of others across all price ranges. ---
**Author:** ![KorbenDallas](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/trainerroad/forum/user_avatar/www.trainerroad.com/korbendallas/32/86114_2.png) [@KorbenDallas](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/u/KorbenDallas)\ **Post date:** [January 19, 2019, 10:05pm UTC](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/t/skin-suit-recommendations-for-crits/7448/12 "2019-01-19T22:05:33Z")
> [@Sopiarz3](#): > > @Landis how is the chamois on the Eliel? Say compared to the Castelli? I’ve had a pair of Castelli bibs and i didn’t like the chamois in those. Then i got Cuore bibs and I don’t see myself buying another brand of bibs in the future. Below is a pic of the Santa Ana Road suit pad. It works for me. I have no complaints. This was last years so to be honest I’m not 100% sure if they are using the same pad in 2019. Web site didn’t have any pixors which always makes it a little harder to decide…I’m 5’10" 165# and this is a medium. Pad fits and sits well for me. ![IMG_3586](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/trainerroad/original/2X/f/fafcc572352b3587b3995015c698207779ca6fb8.jpeg) Below is a pic of a pad similar to the Rincon Bibs I had some years ago. One of the original owners had me test them out but, I’m not sure if they still make this bib. The Hollywood had the same pad. Anyways, this pad is very nice and is very similar to Vie13 which is another kick ass brand. IIRC the higher end Castelli has this pad in it as well. So not sure which Castelli bib you had but, their Kiss pad sux compared to this one IME. ![IMG_3587](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/trainerroad/original/2X/f/f960f9f3e87c9d72330529653dd009d7121a7bf7.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![MI-XC](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/trainerroad/forum/user_avatar/www.trainerroad.com/mi-xc/32/12993_2.png) [@MI-XC](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/u/MI-XC)\ **Post date:** [January 20, 2019, 1:41am UTC](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/t/skin-suit-recommendations-for-crits/7448/13 "2019-01-20T01:41:46Z")
> [@Sopiarz3](#): > > Then i got Cuore bibs and I don’t see myself buying another brand of bibs in the future. What level did you go with, gold? ---
**Author:** ![Sopiarz3](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/trainerroad/forum/user_avatar/www.trainerroad.com/sopiarz3/32/12908_2.png) [@Sopiarz3](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/u/Sopiarz3)\ **Post date:** [January 20, 2019, 5:00pm UTC](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/t/skin-suit-recommendations-for-crits/7448/14 "2019-01-20T17:00:29Z")
Silver with their top level chamois. ---
**Author:** ![RONDAL](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/trainerroad/forum/user_avatar/www.trainerroad.com/rondal/32/7721_2.png) [@RONDAL](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/u/RONDAL)\ **Post date:** [January 20, 2019, 5:05pm UTC](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/t/skin-suit-recommendations-for-crits/7448/15 "2019-01-20T17:05:14Z")
For crits having pockets is helpful as silly as it sounds, especially for non-pros. Having a small pocket to tuck race license, car key, etc. is so helpful compared to a full out skin suit, if you don’t have a pit tent or people you can give items to. Its handy as well for pre-race gels or gummies while you wait in staging, and if you race in the heat they double as ice holders which when placed against your lower back is SOOOOO nice in terms of cooling effect. ---
**Author:** ![aidanoli](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/b9e5f3/32.png) [@aidanoli](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/u/aidanoli)\ **Post date:** [February 22, 2020, 6:09am UTC](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/t/skin-suit-recommendations-for-crits/7448/16 "2020-02-22T06:09:42Z")
Has anyone had any experience with the Jackroo Echelon SS speed suits? I heard Neil say that the Jackroo chamois is his favorite and they have a speed suit with pockets that look good but am wondering if anyone can back that up? I come from a XC skiing background and have found that (atleast the XC suits) the material doesn’t hold up but want to know if their cycling suit material is different and better? ---
**Author:** ![RJones07](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/trainerroad/forum/user_avatar/www.trainerroad.com/rjones07/32/7725_2.png) [@RJones07](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/u/RJones07)\ **Post date:** [February 22, 2020, 7:20am UTC](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/t/skin-suit-recommendations-for-crits/7448/17 "2020-02-22T07:20:24Z")
I’ve been using the echelon suit for the past 2 seasons and I love it. No issues with quality or wear over the years and having 3 pockets in the back is really convenient. I tend to favor it over bibs/jersey for training rides even. ---
**Author:** ![Marcin\_Jaeger](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/trainerroad/forum/user_avatar/www.trainerroad.com/marcin_jaeger/32/16012_2.png) [@Marcin\_Jaeger](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/u/Marcin_Jaeger)\ **Post date:** [February 22, 2020, 8:56am UTC](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/t/skin-suit-recommendations-for-crits/7448/18 "2020-02-22T08:56:06Z")
> **[Custom Cycling Speedsuits & Skinsuits - Verge Sport](https://www.vergesport.com/us-en/custom/cycling/speedsuits/)** > > Verge Sport creates custom cycling speedsuits & skinsuits that are comfortable yet designed to maximize aerodynamics. Learn more about Verge Sport Speedsuits. ---
**Author:** ![CaptainThunderpants](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/trainerroad/forum/user_avatar/www.trainerroad.com/captainthunderpants/32/133391_2.png) [@CaptainThunderpants](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/u/CaptainThunderpants)\ **Post date:** [February 10, 2022, 12:28pm UTC](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/t/skin-suit-recommendations-for-crits/7448/19 "2022-02-10T12:28:30Z")
To revive this thread a bit, I’m looking for a speed suit for this season. Really just want a short sleeve 2-in-1 with rear pockets. I like the Velotec (linked below), but the single middle pocket doesn’t seem very usable, or maybe I’m just not that flexible. Anybody have experience with this? Also looking at Cuore. I know the TR team loves them. And I’ve heard you can get an all black one for a decent price (lower than quoted on the website). Castelli has a nice looking one on the more expensive side. And then Pactimo, which I love their bibs but it looks like you have to order custom for the speed suits. > **[Dynamic Speedsuit / short sleeve + pocket (UCI Legal)](https://www.shop-velotec.cc/collections/speedwear/products/dynamic-speedsuit-short-sleeve-pocket-uci-legal)** > > The Dynamic is the fastest aerodynamic speed suit at speeds over 45kph.  > Palmares to date: 2 x World Champion / 2 x WR + many more National titles. > The Dynamic is ideal for track and road. It is designed in order to... $232 > **[GOLD MEN CYCLING S/SLEEVE AERO SPEED SUIT - CUORE of Switzerland Inc.](https://www.cuore.ch/custom/us/en/GOLD-MEN-CYCLING-S-SLEEVE-AERO-SPEED-SUIT.html)** > > GOLD MEN CYCLING S/SLEEVE AERO SPEED SUIT: The latest materials combined with state-of-the-art cuts and impeccable design result in > our fastest speedsuit, ... $390 > **[Speedsuits Cycling Men SANREMO 4.1 SPEED SUIT - Castelli Cycling](https://www.castelli-cycling.com/US/en/Men/Cycling/Top/Speedsuits/Road/SANREMO-4-1-SPEED-SUIT/p/4521000_085)** > > This road speed suit brings aero performance like a TT suit with all the comfort, function and moisture management needed for the road. Over a decade of development on the roads of the WorldTour. > **[Speedsuits Cycling Men SANREMO 4.1 SPEED SUIT - Castelli Cycling](https://www.castelli-cycling.com/US/en/Men/Cycling/Top/Speedsuits/Road/SANREMO-4-1-SPEED-SUIT/p/4521000_085)** > > This road speed suit brings aero performance like a TT suit with all the comfort, function and moisture management needed for the road. Over a decade of development on the roads of the WorldTour. Not sure why the $100 price difference, $300 or $400. > **[Men's Rally Lightweight Flytesuit - Short Sleeve](https://www.pactimo-custom.com/collections/custom-cycling-skinsuits/products/mens-rally-lightweight-flytesuit-short-sleeve-with-options)** > > Custom Cycling Skinsuit for men. Fully printable with your team or club's logos and colors. $200 ---
**Author:** ![odpaul7](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/trainerroad/forum/user_avatar/www.trainerroad.com/odpaul7/32/84894_2.png) [@odpaul7](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/u/odpaul7)\ **Post date:** [February 10, 2022, 12:41pm UTC](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/t/skin-suit-recommendations-for-crits/7448/20 "2022-02-10T12:41:00Z")
Nopinz has some good suits that aren’t hard on the budget either. > **[Pro-1 Speedsuit Men's - Azure - Nopinz](https://nopinz.com/product/pro-1-speedsuit-mens-azure/)** > > Some people talk about this as our ‘entry-level’ suit. We don’t, because it blows the competition out of the water. This is a serious piece of kit, combining three super aero fabrics, including our in-house designed Speedscalez™ on the shorts. All... [Next page](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/t/skin-suit-recommendations-for-crits/7448.md?page=2)