# Saris H3 Plus - Experience **URL:** \ **Category:** Equipment\ **Created:** [November 25, 2023, 2:53pm UTC](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/t/saris-h3-plus-experience/88568 "2023-11-25T14:53:10Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 5\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![bramdeen](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/trainerroad/forum/user_avatar/www.trainerroad.com/bramdeen/32/7754_2.png) [@bramdeen](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/u/bramdeen)\ **Post date:** [November 25, 2023, 2:53pm UTC](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/t/saris-h3-plus-experience/88568/1 "2023-11-25T14:53:10Z")
Has anyone picked one of these up yet? I am wondering if they are truly compatible with a Shimano 12 spd cassette and not a repeat of fiasco that the H4 was. ---
**Author:** ![bramdeen](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/trainerroad/forum/user_avatar/www.trainerroad.com/bramdeen/32/7754_2.png) [@bramdeen](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/u/bramdeen)\ **Post date:** [November 26, 2023, 2:38pm UTC](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/t/saris-h3-plus-experience/88568/3 "2023-11-26T14:38:57Z")
Yeah - that’s what I figured it was. Happy they fixed the HG/12spd issue. I am hoping they offer the freehub on their parts catalogue so that I can order it for my H3. ---
**Author:** ![Dexvd](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/trainerroad/forum/user_avatar/www.trainerroad.com/dexvd/32/85098_2.png) [@Dexvd](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/u/Dexvd)\ **Post date:** [November 26, 2023, 2:59pm UTC](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/t/saris-h3-plus-experience/88568/4 "2023-11-26T14:59:24Z")
Seems like maybe we’ve reached peak indoor trainer or the R&D teams have moved onto other areas. Seems like things have been pretty stagnant for a bit aside from gimicky movement stuff that I don’t find desirable. If I was to replace my H3, would probably look at the Kickr V6 (don’t have room for a bike setup that can’t be disassembled) but there doesn’t seem to be much out there that blows away the 2019 tech of my H3. I think Saris and others are hurting financially and trying to find ways to justify a continued premium pricing for their trainers after blowing them out over the last 18 months. ---
**Author:** ![Power13](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/trainerroad/forum/user_avatar/www.trainerroad.com/power13/32/92171_2.png) [@Power13](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/u/Power13)\ **Post date:** [November 26, 2023, 6:00pm UTC](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/t/saris-h3-plus-experience/88568/5 "2023-11-26T18:00:00Z")
> [@Dexvd](#): > > I think Saris and others are hurting financially Well, there is a reason they filed for bankruptcy protection…😉 > [@Dexvd](#): > > trying to find ways to justify a continued premium pricing for their trainers after blowing them out over the last 18 months The reality is there is no justification for the previous “premium” price levels and anything close to those levels are wishful thinking. $450 is the floor for a direct drive trainer now….and the ceiling for the overwhelming majority of the population is likely $2k, possibly closer to $800. The days of +$1k trainers are largely over, IMO. ---
**Author:** ![Will\_Peters](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/trainerroad/forum/user_avatar/www.trainerroad.com/will_peters/32/115642_2.png) [@Will\_Peters](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/u/Will_Peters)\ **Post date:** [November 26, 2023, 6:17pm UTC](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/t/saris-h3-plus-experience/88568/6 "2023-11-26T18:17:04Z")
> [@Power13](#): > > the ceiling for the overwhelming majority of the population is likely $2k, possibly closer to $800. The days of +$1k trainers are largely over, IMO. I’d 100% agree with this. Unless you have a tremendous amount of cash burning a hole in your pocket or need to flex to everyone that you got the “best of the best” then buying the top end trainers these days don’t seem a worthwhile investing… take that extra $1200ish (Kickr move price - Kickr CORE, for example) and buy yourself a sweet upgrade for your bike!