# "Sand Box" plan builder feature?

**URL:** <https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/t/sand-box-plan-builder-feature/64574>\
**Category:** TrainerRoad Software\
**Tags:** feature-request\
**Created:** [October 27, 2021, 2:10pm UTC](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/t/sand-box-plan-builder-feature/64574 "2021-10-27T14:10:52Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 10\
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**Author:** ![saddle\_sore](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/trainerroad/forum/user_avatar/www.trainerroad.com/saddle_sore/32/21115_2.png) [@saddle\_sore](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/u/saddle_sore)\
**Post date:** [October 27, 2021, 2:10pm UTC](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/t/sand-box-plan-builder-feature/64574/1 "2021-10-27T14:10:52Z")

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Any chance of getting an option to build a training plan in a “Sand Box”? (I think that’s the term)  
I built my training plan for the year with my (with my known) events, and all looks good.  
But, say something changes between events. It would be nice to see if I made changes to the events like changing discipline, adding events, changing dates , and or changing from say an B to an A event would do to my plan without it actually touching my current plan. I have tried this in the past and my calendar got pretty messed up…hence why I’m asking

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**Author:** ![IvyAudrain](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/trainerroad/forum/user_avatar/www.trainerroad.com/ivyaudrain/32/47471_2.png) [@IvyAudrain](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/u/IvyAudrain)\
**Post date:** [October 27, 2021, 2:29pm UTC](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/t/sand-box-plan-builder-feature/64574/2 "2021-10-27T14:29:15Z")

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Hey! I think you’re asking for visibility for a history of the ways in which you’ve adjusted your plan?

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**Author:** ![stevepetts372](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/trainerroad/forum/user_avatar/www.trainerroad.com/stevepetts372/32/13488_2.png) [@stevepetts372](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/u/stevepetts372)\
**Post date:** [October 27, 2021, 2:44pm UTC](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/t/sand-box-plan-builder-feature/64574/3 "2021-10-27T14:44:33Z")

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Ivy

I think the OP is asking for a way to see what changes may take place to a plan, in isolation, without having to delete it first. Or at least some ‘undo’ function

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**Author:** ![mjm158](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/trainerroad/forum/user_avatar/www.trainerroad.com/mjm158/32/12908_2.png) [@mjm158](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/u/mjm158)\
**Post date:** [October 27, 2021, 2:47pm UTC](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/t/sand-box-plan-builder-feature/64574/4 "2021-10-27T14:47:10Z")

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YES! I had this same thought the other day.  
@IvyAudrain not so much looking at past plans, more like a option to say, “What would my plan look like if I went from mid- to high volume” or “How would my plan change if I switched it from crit to road race.” or (as OP asked) “What would happen with my plan if I switched my A and B events.” In my (albeit limited) knowledge of TR I don’t know of a way to do this without totally changing your plan and messing everything up.  
Maybe a “preview” feature when making changes to a plan is another way to solve it?

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**Author:** ![MrEkul](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/trainerroad/forum/user_avatar/www.trainerroad.com/mrekul/32/12893_2.png) [@MrEkul](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/u/MrEkul)\
**Post date:** [October 27, 2021, 2:53pm UTC](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/t/sand-box-plan-builder-feature/64574/5 "2021-10-27T14:53:15Z")

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I think we used to be able to go to plan builder and preview (or build) a new plan (different dates, hours, speciality etc) but now there is validation preventing you from doing this if you already have a plan in place with overlapping dates.

It would be nice to be able to preview a new plan again without having to delete the existing one first.

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**Author:** ![mcneese.chad](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/trainerroad/forum/user_avatar/www.trainerroad.com/mcneese.chad/32/15056_2.png) [@mcneese.chad](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/u/mcneese.chad)\
**Post date:** [October 27, 2021, 2:55pm UTC](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/t/sand-box-plan-builder-feature/64574/6 "2021-10-27T14:55:18Z")

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Yeah, the Preview is possible when adding new plans. Not sure what happens with trying to edit existing, but may be limited or impossible.

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**Author:** ![IvyAudrain](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/trainerroad/forum/user_avatar/www.trainerroad.com/ivyaudrain/32/47471_2.png) [@IvyAudrain](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/u/IvyAudrain)\
**Post date:** [October 27, 2021, 4:36pm UTC](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/t/sand-box-plan-builder-feature/64574/7 "2021-10-27T16:36:18Z")

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Thanks for expanding upon that request, all. Will pass this along to the team for consideration!

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**Author:** ![saddle\_sore](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/trainerroad/forum/user_avatar/www.trainerroad.com/saddle_sore/32/21115_2.png) [@saddle\_sore](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/u/saddle_sore)\
**Post date:** [October 27, 2021, 4:38pm UTC](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/t/sand-box-plan-builder-feature/64574/8 "2021-10-27T16:38:48Z")

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MrEkul said it much better then i did! thank you

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**Author:** ![saddle\_sore](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/trainerroad/forum/user_avatar/www.trainerroad.com/saddle_sore/32/21115_2.png) [@saddle\_sore](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/u/saddle_sore)\
**Post date:** [October 27, 2021, 4:41pm UTC](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/t/sand-box-plan-builder-feature/64574/9 "2021-10-27T16:41:13Z")

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Again Stevepetts372 put it more eloquently then I! thank you

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**Author:** ![voldemort](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/trainerroad/forum/user_avatar/www.trainerroad.com/voldemort/32/77807_2.png) [@voldemort](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/u/voldemort)\
**Post date:** [October 28, 2021, 3:33pm UTC](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/t/sand-box-plan-builder-feature/64574/10 "2021-10-28T15:33:07Z")

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This is something I would like as well. My current workaround is to build a new plan in the future with the changes I want, and then look at what the plan recommends at the same time from event.

Not sure if that makes sense, but basically if I am three months out from my A event, I will make a new plan that starts at the end of the old plan, with my updated events distributed similarly over time (e.g. original plan started 6 months before A event, then new plan I want to test has an arbitrary A event 6 months from start date), or with the events removed, etc. Then I look at what the plan recommends 3 months out from my A event. Kind of cumbersome, but it works for now.
