# Return Sweet Spot Base plans **URL:** \ **Category:** TrainerRoad Software\ **Tags:** feature-request\ **Created:** [February 16, 2025, 10:17pm UTC](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/t/return-sweet-spot-base-plans/100870 "2025-02-16T22:17:10Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 15\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![sbright](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/trainerroad/forum/user_avatar/www.trainerroad.com/sbright/32/122868_2.png) [@sbright](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/u/sbright)\ **Post date:** [February 16, 2025, 10:17pm UTC](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/t/return-sweet-spot-base-plans/100870/1 "2025-02-16T22:17:10Z")
Please bring back the old SSB plans. Or at least make them manually available. Thanks ---
**Author:** ![hubcyclist](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/trainerroad/forum/user_avatar/www.trainerroad.com/hubcyclist/32/14363_2.png) [@hubcyclist](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/u/hubcyclist)\ **Post date:** [February 16, 2025, 10:24pm UTC](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/t/return-sweet-spot-base-plans/100870/2 "2025-02-16T22:24:22Z")
This will get you most of the way there but I made a sweet spot progression I share with folks on my website [https://347cycling.com](https://347cycling.com) that I call Foundational Base that revolves around 2 sweet spot sessions per week and the rest the user can fill in with endurance riding. The zip file contains workouts in multiple formats. And it’ll get you to 1x90 in 8 weeks. Feel free to try that if you want a solid progression ---
**Author:** ![sbright](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/trainerroad/forum/user_avatar/www.trainerroad.com/sbright/32/122868_2.png) [@sbright](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/u/sbright)\ **Post date:** [February 16, 2025, 10:40pm UTC](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/t/return-sweet-spot-base-plans/100870/3 "2025-02-16T22:40:18Z")
Thanks. Ideally I’m keen for the old SSB High Volume plan. Looking back through my TR Calendar the first week looked like the below. ![image](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/trainerroad/original/3X/8/5/85b50514e611db6fb756a31a98a37fe78c3945ae.png) ---
**Author:** ![hubcyclist](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/trainerroad/forum/user_avatar/www.trainerroad.com/hubcyclist/32/14363_2.png) [@hubcyclist](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/u/hubcyclist)\ **Post date:** [February 16, 2025, 10:49pm UTC](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/t/return-sweet-spot-base-plans/100870/4 "2025-02-16T22:49:13Z")
Having done SSB hv many times I can tell you you’ll get just about all the benefit limiting to two workouts a week and just riding more endurance ---
**Author:** ![Chain\_of\_Fools](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/trainerroad/forum/user_avatar/www.trainerroad.com/chain_of_fools/32/145672_2.png) [@Chain\_of\_Fools](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/u/Chain_of_Fools)\ **Post date:** [February 16, 2025, 10:55pm UTC](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/t/return-sweet-spot-base-plans/100870/5 "2025-02-16T22:55:32Z")
More generally, I’d love some manual plan builder options, maybe a “for experts only” section or something. I believe you used to be able to specify polarized vs. SS-heavy/pyramidal, and it’d also be great to be able to just manually specify an X-week base, build, or specialty block. You can sort of get some of this functionally by just picking a short “build FTP” plan, but it still splits into build/specialty and there’s minimal ability to specify polarized vs. pyramidal or other options. IME you pretty much just always get some combo of a SS, a VO2 and a threshold workout every week. ---
**Author:** ![rkoswald](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/trainerroad/forum/user_avatar/www.trainerroad.com/rkoswald/32/28273_2.png) [@rkoswald](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/u/rkoswald)\ **Post date:** [February 17, 2025, 2:13am UTC](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/t/return-sweet-spot-base-plans/100870/6 "2025-02-17T02:13:44Z")
**TrainerRoad Sweet Spot Base Mid Volume II** _Plan as of 21 Jul 2020_ | | | | | | | | | | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | | | Monday | Tuesday | Wednesday | Thursday | Friday | Saturday | Sunday | | Week 1 | - | Ramp Test | Bays | Ebbetts | Pettit | Kaweah | Geiger +4 | | Week 2 | - | Taylor -1 | Carter -1 | Donner | Pettit | Clark +2 | Hunter | | Week 3 | - | Bluebell | Pettit | Geiger +1 | Pettit | Carpathian Peak +2 | Monitor +2 | | Week 4 | - | Mills | Pettit | Darwin | Pettit | Mary Austin | Tallac +3 | | Week 5 | - | Spencer +2 | Carter -1 | Lamarck | Pettit | Wright Peak -1 | Leconte | | Week 6 | - | Pettit | Dans | Carter -1 | Beech | Andrews | Boarstone | EDIT: Original MV plan almost certainly did not have any rides scheduled on Fridays. At some point I probably (incorrectly) added Pettit to the table. See comments below for a more thorough discussion. **TrainerRoad Sweet Spot Base High Volume I** _Plan as of 1 Feb 2021_ | | | | | | | | | | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | | | Monday | Tuesday | Wednesday | Thursday | Friday | Saturday | Sunday | | Week 1 | - | Antelope | Geiger | Antelope | Pettit | Hunter | Wright Peak -2 | | Week 2 | - | Antelope +2 | Monitor +1 | Geiger +2 | Pettit | Wright Peak -2 | Hunter -2 | | Week 3 | - | Geiger +2 | Tallac | Carillon +2 | Pettit | Juneau -1 | Tallac +3 | | Week 4 | - | Eclipse | Glassy | Eclipse | Pettit | Tallac +3 | Juneau -1 | | Week 5 | - | Galena | Looking Glass | Eclipse | Pettit | Wright Peak -1 | Galena +3 | | Week 6 | - | Fletcher | Pettit | Brasstown | Taku | Boarstone | Andrews | Sorry, I don’t have any others ---
**Author:** ![Twowkg](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ce7236/32.png) [@Twowkg](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/u/Twowkg)\ **Post date:** [February 17, 2025, 4:35am UTC](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/t/return-sweet-spot-base-plans/100870/7 "2025-02-17T04:35:36Z")
Didn’t these get canned for a reason? There are better ways to go about progressing SST than the old high volume plans. (And I completed ssb 1 and 2 back in the day). ---
**Author:** ![Flashpoint51](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/trainerroad/forum/user_avatar/www.trainerroad.com/flashpoint51/32/7746_2.png) [@Flashpoint51](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/u/Flashpoint51)\ **Post date:** [February 17, 2025, 9:12am UTC](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/t/return-sweet-spot-base-plans/100870/8 "2025-02-17T09:12:11Z")
I did SSBMV2 a couple of times - Week 5 of that schedule was absolutely brutal. I never made it through build, I was completely cooked both times. ---
**Author:** ![sbright](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/trainerroad/forum/user_avatar/www.trainerroad.com/sbright/32/122868_2.png) [@sbright](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/u/sbright)\ **Post date:** [February 17, 2025, 10:39am UTC](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/t/return-sweet-spot-base-plans/100870/9 "2025-02-17T10:39:45Z")
Agreed it was brutal. I made it through multiple times and the result was some of the most consistent FTP improvements I’ve achieved while using TrainerRoad for over a decade. ---
**Author:** ![Pbase](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/trainerroad/forum/user_avatar/www.trainerroad.com/pbase/32/969_2.png) [@Pbase](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/u/Pbase)\ **Post date:** [February 17, 2025, 11:23am UTC](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/t/return-sweet-spot-base-plans/100870/10 "2025-02-17T11:23:56Z")
> [@rkoswald](#): > > TrainerRoad Sweet Spot Base Mid Volume II Is that correct for MV? I feel like it was 5 days a week, not 6…but maybe I was just adding a day off? Just to add to the stockpile, here’s what appears to be a screen shot of MV 1 that I found online ![IMG_8892](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/trainerroad/original/3X/7/a/7a3e246d8f1fdec467468455f5c36725e83083c2.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![rkoswald](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/trainerroad/forum/user_avatar/www.trainerroad.com/rkoswald/32/28273_2.png) [@rkoswald](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/u/rkoswald)\ **Post date:** [February 17, 2025, 11:33am UTC](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/t/return-sweet-spot-base-plans/100870/11 "2025-02-17T11:33:20Z")
> [@Pbase](#): > > Is that correct for MV? It’s quite possible I added the Friday Pettit workout to my table at some point and that the OG plan was five days / week. ---
**Author:** ![MI-XC-gravel](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/trainerroad/forum/user_avatar/www.trainerroad.com/mi-xc-gravel/32/164084_2.png) [@MI-XC-gravel](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/u/MI-XC-gravel)\ **Post date:** [February 17, 2025, 11:52am UTC](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/t/return-sweet-spot-base-plans/100870/12 "2025-02-17T11:52:17Z")
OG plans were 5 days for mid and 6 days for HV. ---
**Author:** ![eddie](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/trainerroad/forum/user_avatar/www.trainerroad.com/eddie/32/129850_2.png) [@eddie](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/u/eddie)\ **Post date:** [February 17, 2025, 5:00pm UTC](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/t/return-sweet-spot-base-plans/100870/13 "2025-02-17T17:00:33Z")
We’ve limited intensity to three days a week as we believe that’s the best way to progress. In terms of intensity, more is not better. It’s pretty easy to saturate stress-signal responders and 4+ days of intensity is overkill in pretty much all scenarios. I agree with @hubcyclist here – 2-3 days of Sweet Spot a week is enough. 😅 ---
**Author:** ![gcarver](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/trainerroad/forum/user_avatar/www.trainerroad.com/gcarver/32/15266_2.png) [@gcarver](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/u/gcarver)\ **Post date:** [February 17, 2025, 8:12pm UTC](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/t/return-sweet-spot-base-plans/100870/14 "2025-02-17T20:12:59Z")
Didn’t there used to be some url-hacking you could do to bring up the old training plan versions? I let my subscription lapse so I can’t actually check. Possible it’s still there, although the training plan pages have seen a number of changes in the last few years. ---
**Author:** ![sbright](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/trainerroad/forum/user_avatar/www.trainerroad.com/sbright/32/122868_2.png) [@sbright](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/u/sbright)\ **Post date:** [February 18, 2025, 9:28am UTC](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/t/return-sweet-spot-base-plans/100870/15 "2025-02-18T09:28:19Z")
@eddie general Base HV does not have enough TSS. Part 1 has 375 where SSB HV Part 1 has 600+. I get that the old SSB plans are no longer TrainerRoad recommended. There are other plans that are not recommended yet we still have them eg Polarized/Traditional Base. Just asking to be able to add it into my calendar as an option/manual adjustment. Make it a toggle to have it visible again please.